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January 13, 2012 17:02

What I do not understand yet: can you as an importer also choose not to enter tracks? If so: then there should also be a field at the top for the general artist?

And I see that you cannot (yet) search for the titles of tracks, just like you can search for the topics of the articles in Magazines. As far as I am concerned, it would be a great loss if that function could not be incorporated into this big embellishment campaign right away.

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January 13, 2012 15:27

Just an update on the performance problem. We have found the bottleneck.

The problem was in a number of compilation albums with a lot of tracks and a lot of artists. The absolute number 1 was the "Golden shower of 72 hits" with 72 artists and about 70 tracks. Each track featured those 72 artists.

There were about 300 other compilation albums where this also happened.

We have now solved it as follows. If an album has three or more artists, we only put the artists on the first track. This means that the information is not lost and it is also a better representation of reality, because we do not know exactly which artist belongs to which track based on the information we now have.

This only applies to the conversion. You are always free to add more artists to a track.

Incidentally, a close second was "De Afrekening 32 Best of 2003" :-)

We will now continue transferring the tracks.

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Hello everyone at Catawiki,

Good luck with the conversion.

I have always had a very positive attitude and also now.

Have just entered a double CD in the new way and I have the impression that much more information can be retrieved from the system later.

Good luck again.

Herman0501

Herman Hamerpagt
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January 13, 2012 12:43

We are looking at it. Does not seem to be related to it at first glance.

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January 13, 2012 10:53

Currently about 25% of the items have been converted. The items have so far been split into 134000 single tracks / sides.

Thanks for the praise. And especially thanks to everyone for helping out with testing. There will still be some patterns in the conversion that a new script can help with. But I am happy that this is now running smoothly.

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January 12, 2012 22:55

new entry is not successful at the moment (12-01; 22.31) because the field "artist" is not in the main section but with the tracks ... I get the message Oops ... artist Artist / band is required field without this field being available ...

Entering works again.
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new entry is not successful at the moment (12-01; 22.31) because the field "artist" is not in the main section but with the tracks ... I get the message Oops ... artist Artist / band is required field without this field being available ...

good luck with this "Hell of a job"!

greeting,

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January 12, 2012 21:36

The first single didn't go quite well :-) The first track starts with 21 :-)

Apart from that, it looks good. I am also curious about CDs and double CDs.

Kozy did a good job indeed. Now we can also get started with the classics.

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January 12, 2012 19:52

the incorrect input is also an early input and that will just be adjusted manually.

and webbing really perfect rendering

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January 12, 2012 19:46

What we have seen in the preparation that a large number of items are transferred properly. hence our insistence on correct input only the old input gave and still gives problems and I also expect that we will have to restore many items manually but make many more hands ......... etc

But I admire what has been achieved to date, we're talking about nearly 100,000 items and I'm thinking about one million tracks added from the beginning.

take into account that in the early days there were not really guidelines, insights, agreements, Kozy has gotten a hell of a job as far as I can judge it now.

Only praise for this.

my call to everyone you will see strange incorrect renderings in the coming period, please repair them manually

thanks also to administrators who provided positive constructive improvements.

thanks in advance

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January 12, 2012 19:41

A few examples of tracks that have since been transferred:

single , double lp , another double lp , single , another single , an lp and for completenessone that went wrong because the input is something we didn't count on.

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January 12, 2012 16:03

Elizabeth, I fixed it. Thanks for reporting.

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January 12, 2012 16:00

is something going wrong here?

I wanted to make a change to a stamp in the Soviet Union.

but when i press the stamp i get the message that the section is temporarily blocked, and if i press 'more information' i will get to your correspondence about music?

funny, but hopefully back to normal soon.

els.

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January 12, 2012 15:56

Okay :-), but I've kept some more examples :-))

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January 12, 2012 15:51

Morits, could throw food in the soot.

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January 12, 2012 15:40

so the word HE LP can throw a spanner in the works ???? I am very curious if it goes well now ...

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January 12, 2012 15:37

Morits. It had already been resolved. (I think it said LP, then the script thought it was going to the next 'side')

All tests are removed so that will be fine.

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January 12, 2012 14:13

this one: 930125

just look at number C02, there is nothing strange in the text...

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January 12, 2012 14:05

Morits, that does not always go well indeed. That is not possible either, because with the enormously diverse input of the tracks field. But the current version has been extensively reviewed by two users. We assume that this is still good enough to use now.

If you roughly follow the input instructions, you should be fine.

What is the item going wrong?

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I am curious whether the hard error it contains has already been solved. It has been previously reported that the parsing of tracks is not going well. And not with dark lyrics but with very simple ones. I can give an example ...

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Dear music fans,
today we are going to convert the field with the tracks in the records and CD section. As some administrators have already seen with testing, you can enter that in separate tracks. Composer and lyricist are added as extra fields. In total you can indicate the following fields for a track:
Side: A, B, C etc.
Track number: 1,2,3 etc.
Name: Metastasis
Duration: 8:00
Genre: Classical: Modern Composers
Artist (s): Xenakis, Iannis
Composer: Xenakis, Iannis
Copywriter: ...
What we are going to do today is that we:
  • All items under records and CDs will freeze during the conversion, this means that temporarily no adjustments can be made to existing items. New items are entered directly using the new tracks fields.
  • We are going to run a script that splits the tracks field into separate tracks. This must go well in 95% of the cases. However, it can never go perfectly in all cases because of the different formatting of that field.
  • As soon as the item has been converted, that item can be modified again. The old tracks field remains read only.
We will let you know in this topic when everything has been converted.
Additional information:
An overview of a single will look like this:
/images/tracks/overzicht.png
Entering a single track looks like this:
And for the 'power user' we have the option to transfer all tracks from plain text:
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January 12, 2012 01:18

Using other sites as a reference work to make a good and, above all, complete entry is certainly very useful. Indeed, you should not assume that those sites have the full truth in their hands and always rely mainly on your own copy.

Discogs is certainly a useful site and if you search for that term within the CataWiki forums you will find that many collectors also know and use this site.

However, what is objectionable is the use of the images from that site, because they are not always clear, incomplete or incorrect. Always start from your own copy and don't steal images from other sites.

As a music lover myself, I have also registered with the aforementioned sites, but that is mainly because you want to look up something that you will not find on your record.

I have also come across the difference between distribution code, release number and imprint on the record (also has a name, but can't think of it) on various sites. CataWiki also often has questions in its forums and fortunately more and more are being added to this.

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January 08, 2012 12:29

I think a useful tool

But no more than that. I regularly encounter errors there. The problem is that many of those internet sources simply copy information from each other. Including errors.

The site also lists the year and release numbers of other countries in which a particular single was released

But only if participants have filled it in. So it works similar to Catawiki. Check out Rate Your Music's site for release numbers:

http://rateyourmusic.com/list_classifier/Discographies/

I use this regularly myself. and also the magazine Warm Sounds. This magazine contains release lists of singles and EPs from the 50s and 60s released in the Netherlands by record company.

Platenclub Utrecht has also released 2 volumes with data on singles released in the Netherlands. See http://pwedding.home.xs4all.nl/index.htm

Catawiki user Herman0501 is a member of that club.

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January 07, 2012 22:54

@ Klaas17, this site does indeed often provide additional information, but it is certainly not 100%.

But I suspect that a lot of collectors use this site to copy things etc and that is indeed often useful while adding.

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