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September 30, 2012 09:34
Dear, Already have a nice stamp collection from Belgium but a little background information about the collected stamps would be nice. What I would like to know, for example, is how one can actually know how many stamps are still in circulation for a particular stamp. Supply and demand of course determine the price in the catalog, but one must have an idea somewhere about what is still in circulation. Are there tables or something of this? Thanks for response.Tommy
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September 30, 2012 10:52

buy a catalog

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  • September 30, 2012 11:00
September 30, 2012 11:00
Buying a catalog .. Didn't know that it stated approximately how many stamps are still in circulation for a particular stamp? I have about 5 here and never saw them. You give me the name of that catalog and I will go and buy it.
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September 30, 2012 19:31

there are all series in and from each year up to the present, and if you buy second hand then you also have a nice overview of what has been released up to the year that is on the catalog.

I have the impression that everything is listed on Catawiki, and if you don't see them here, you should scan them and show them here on the forum.

if all goes well, the year will be at the bottom of the stamps

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  • September 30, 2012 19:42
September 30, 2012 19:42
But I am concerned here with the fact how many stamps of a particular issue are still in circulation! In the first place you have the circulation, but then in the second place you have how much of that circulation is still existing or in circulation. And that is not mentioned anywhere. Not on Catawiki and not in a catalog.
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September 30, 2012 19:49

Maybe because it is simply impossible to verify.

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September 30, 2012 19:50

How do you imagine anyone could even approximate that?

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September 30, 2012 20:05
That is of course the question ... as it is known that some stamps are only 15 in circulation or of the medallions only a few thousand, so I would think that if one does a valuation, one also knows roughly how many there are are still in circulation. Obviously, this cannot be estimated to a hundred or so, but perhaps to a few thousand.
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September 30, 2012 20:36

Tommy1979

In the first place you have the circulation, but then in the second place you have how much of that circulation is still existing or in circulation. And that is not mentioned anywhere.

Suppose 2,000,000 of a stamp from 1978 were made (the edition) of which 1,800,000 were sold, the other 200,000 were not sold and destroyed.

The print run remains 2,000,000 despite the fact that 200,000 have been destroyed anyway, of the remaining 1,800,000 a set of MNHs have been collected and the rest used.

Not all of the used copies are in the hands of collectors ended up but also many in the trash.

The edition of a stamp is often (but not always) known, how many stamps there are still postfis and canceled of a certain edition, only God / Allah / Yahwe knows.

Someone who claims to know how many stamps there are of a certain print run is secretly God / Allah / Yahweh,

If you are lucky enough to speak to someone like that, I would be completely different ask questions how many stamps there are of a certain print run :)

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September 30, 2012 20:48

Tommy1979,

an example: Prestige booklet Rembrandt Catawikinr: 552595 normal circulation, however, there would be something wrong with the fluorine imprint, a large part of the circulation would have been destroyed normal circulation, (so-called) low circulation, so worth 80 euros in no time, then it turned out not at all rare (traders had bought up large quantities when they heard about the mistake) so now 5 years later you can get it for less than 20 euries.

What I want to say, (and this happens regular) of a particular stamp, only a few copies are known, so very expensive until a safe is opened somewhere or an old collection comes from the attic and it turns out that there are whole sheets in it, the result is no longer special in one fell swoop, we will risk the philately just call it.

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September 30, 2012 21:01

In the 1970s it was also known that the lowest value of the Surinamese or Antillean 1 cent was bought by one person and as a result the value increased enormously. While these weren't rare at all, but were just in a safe ... :-(

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September 30, 2012 21:17

Yes Morits the 'bread' traders have gotten a few spots in their reputation in the past, too bad they are always silent about that, this forum :-)) it has seriously damaged their reputation, if they were a bit more open about that it could improve their (generally somewhat negative) image.

But who am I said the crazy

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September 30, 2012 22:14

Tommy1979

Very short; not known and also not approachable in numbers.

Micho

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September 30, 2012 23:27

Tommy, or do you think you have the last stamps?

the edition is usually mentioned in the Michel, but not in the yvert

and the value determination has with many more factors than you could think or imagine .. all the stamps in a million copies have usually already reached a value of 0, and will usually not become worth anymore., despite the fact that someone has 1.5 million of that stamp on the shelf. edition is edition

The question is further, do you want to know all this, and what use will that be, a nod in your stamp, and your stamp is only worth 0.10 cents from 10 euros, so quickly it goes into values.

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October 01, 2012 13:12

Thanks to everyone for the comments. And no, Aartinge, I will certainly not have the last stamps, but only asked this out of interest because sometimes the value of a stamp goes up, but I was actually wondering whether this is caused by the dwindling of stock at the stamp dealers ...

Have fun collecting ;-)

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October 01, 2012 23:19

Tommy, it has nothing to do with that, as I said before, too many factors come into play.

if the stamp dealer no longer has them, then other collectors have these stamps again, it has therefore most to do with the circulation.

Even if a trader buys too little, it has nothing to do with the value.

Too many factors, and too long a story to explain that here.

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