Music/Alias53 messages

Would Apollo 440 and Apollo Four Forty with the aid of alias can be linked?

I merged the two under Apollo 440. But I gave Apollo Four Forty as the name variant instead of the alias, because I don't think it's really an alias.

Are you absolutely right. Thanks for the merge.

I also ran into Berdien Steunenberg, who is also known as Berdien Stenberg.

Well spotted Kevin :-)

I have kept Stenberg, Berdien as the name and Steunenberg, Berdien as the name variation. I'm not sure if we should consider this an alias.

De titel van dit topic is inderdaad niet helemaal correct gekozen, ik geef alleen naamvarianten op...

Bijzonder is bij mevrouw Steunenberg, dat er in Catawiki nu een LP 1921377 is met haar eigen naam en de rerelease als CD 1225063 met haar artiestennaam...

The title of this topic is indeed not quite correct, I only give name variations...

What is special about Mrs. Steunenberg is that Catawiki now has an LP 1921377 with her own name and the rerelease as CD 1225063 with her stage name...

Doesn't matter :-)

Fortunately, Schomper has not changed :-) It must have to do with popularity. With the release, the record my will have thought that Stenberg sells more than Steunenberg.

@FrenchS

According to Catawiki rules, Steunenberg, Berdien must be entered as real name and Stenberg, Berdien as an alias.

Stenberg is her stage name and that is an alias and not a variant.

I can imagine that you use the real name with Boeken, for example, but with music the end is lost. There are a lot more artists with a stage name than writers with a writer name, so to speak :-)

And who is going to find out all those original names? I'm glad I know who John van Leeuwarden is :-))

That was a look-up!

My knowledge dates back to before the internet :-)

Johnny who ..... ???????

If Johnny Lion is properly entered as an alias at Leeuwarden, John van, everyone who types in Johnny Lion will end up in the search field at Sophietje.

But it will soon cause the greatest misery when entering the personal register when Music now uses different entry criteria than the other categories.

Yes and let's also take The Beatles as the alias of The Quarrymen ; p

It will therefore be Robert de Nijs, Rogers Nelson Prince and Franz Eugen Helmuth Manfred Nidl.

I had already proposed a reverse approach to pseudonyms in this discussion , which would also cause much less confusion in the music categories. I have no idea how far it is already with that personal register.

Yes and let's also take The Beatles as the alias of The Quarrymen ; p

No, because when the Quarrymen change their name to the Beatles and start making records under the new name, the new name becomes the 'official' and the old the alias. Just like with the comics Kiekeboe is now the alias of the official name De Kiekeboes.

It will therefore be Robert de Nijs, Rogers Nelson Prince and Franz Eugen Helmuth Manfred Nidl.

Yes, it is, because I have not checked it, but I still hope that Prince and TAFKAP both just as equivalent aliases of one and the same Nelson, Prince Rogers and not as two different artists.

Incidentally, I also find and found the proposal of Boekenmagazijn very charming, but I think that requires a significant restructuring of the database.

It is not the search that I expect problems with, but the input. A standard enthusiast does not know who John van Leeuwarden is and prefers to introduce Johnny Lion. Artist names are "more" common in music than, for example, in books or comics.

Sorting seems to be another problem. For Tina Turner, I check my lists at the T and not at the B.

I find the idea of Boekenmagazijn very interesting in this context.

I just discovered a potential spoke in the wheel of Boekenmagazijn's proposal, pseudonyms used by multiple authors!

Many American (pulp) comics and magazines use so-called 'house pseudonyms'. Various authors published under such a house pseudonym. If we reverse the link real name & lt; - & gt; pseudonym, those stories will no longer be properly linked to the right person.

A similar recent example is Béka. Caroline Rouque has written the Dance Academy stories under that name (potentially known from the magazine Tina). But under the same pseudonym Béka she also wrote a book together with Bertrand Escaich.
Béka can therefore stand for Caroline Rouque as well as Caroline Rouque + Bertrand Escaich.

That makes the conversion of the author database to the proposal of Boekenmagazijn very complex.

Can / should Adiemus and Karl Jenkins also be linked in any way?

Now the full albums are under Karl Jenkins, but Adiemus is featured as the performing artist on various collectors.

I have no idea. Is Adiemus an alias of Jenkins? In other words are they the same person?

Adiemus is a project by Karl Jenkins (I only got it from Wikipedia, you know).

Unambiguous as we are, and thanks to the copy function, at least all complete Adiemus CDs have come under his name, at (at least) part 2 of the series his name is also mentioned.

Adiemus as the artist name is in use on compilation CDs, but are just the same versions.

Additionally: Shakespear's Sister and Shakespear's Sister (with and without apostrophe) are the same band.

Then I will merge Jenkins and Adiemus and make Adiemus an alias of Jenkins :-)

I will also make the two sisters members of the same family again :-)

I took a look at Adiemus .... When I search for Jenkins, I find 3 CDs entitled Adiemus.

However, when I search Adiemus I find compilation CDs (cuddly rock) with Adiemus - Adiemus, in other words the artist Adiemus who plays / sings the piece Adiemus.

Would you like to merge it anyway and make Adiemus the alias of Jenkins?