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Here are some questions about transferring car folders in books to other. For years people have not known what to do with my collection of car brochures in the wrong books section. Now it appears that a number of car brochure items have been moved to the other car brochures section. I heard that they are now going to transfer this in small chunks. in itself it's fine that something is happening now, it's a pity that with this lastdodo system you don't get a notification that this is being carried out, I found this out by making a double purchase, also by using search functions that then no longer work. there is some hobby chaos. With some effort I found a solution by using the search function in the "car brochures" section under "person" as a search function, a bit of a strange search function but okay. Now the questions are: how long will this transfer take?, with chunks of 5 like now?, will any search functions in the car folders section change, for example: person? which means I have to adjust everything again?, as I am now placing my new items in this section
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We have been working for some time to migrate all brochures from the various sections to the Other section. Migrating items from one section to another section is a laborious process. This is mainly because each section has different fields and it must be carefully checked whether all data is transferred properly to the new section.
In addition, transferring has far-reaching consequences for all data tables (catalogue, collections, shops, search lists + all tables of the relevant sections) that we cannot do this in bulk, which would cause problems with all sections.

The Comics brochures have now been transferred to Other, now we are working on the brochures from the Books section. Don't expect miracles, partly because technical problems (item-related) sometimes arise. There are also car folders in Other that are not yet linked to the correct Object, including Other/Folder/
But all car brochures ultimately end up in Other / Car brochure/folder .
By the way, it has no consequences for the items in your collection, shop and/or search list, they will just be in a different section in your collection.
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Ok, as far as it is clear, but will the fields/search functions in the autofolders section change, meaning I will have to adjust my search function again? The "number of pages" field is missing, which might be useful for folders. It is also easy if you can search by language in your collection, but you can also search in books
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The Language is already a field in the Other section.
Number of pages not (yet), but this will certainly be added in the future.
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That's right, but that's why I can't sort my collection by that
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And the “person” field also remains usable for my new items?
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michel-stahlberg It is highly inadvisable (read "forbidden", but that sounds so scary) to use/abuse a Person field that is used to manage individuals for car brands because it happens to be in your personal collection convenient for sorting. The only thing you risk with this is that we will throw everything into the trash bin during a major clean-up.
If you have a need, ask the question in the forum and see what LD has to offer.
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I think this is related to the theme, this is already used by third parties, the search function, for example Volvo P1800 and Volvo 1800, falls under the collective theme Volvo 1800, in 1 folder you also have different types 1800 and 120, no idea where the person belongs. autofolders, but where can I enter this?, in theme?
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It still needs to be adjusted for me
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I think in Books they use the "Series / hero" field to enter the make/type/model of a car.

Under Other / Car Brochures/Flyers, the following fields may be useful to you:
Manufacturer / publisher = Car brand (Volvo)
Series = Model (1800)
Sub-series = Type (120)

The Theme is simply Cars, so no car brand to be named here.
The Other section contains many different objects, so we cannot enter a field for this in great detail.
We need to investigate this carefully to determine whether this is the correct method for placing car brochures in the catalogue.
The number of pages can now be entered in the Other section.
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Ok, we'll make adjustments tonight
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Collectioneur Almost all car brands are in Thema, so we have to think carefully about whether that will just be Cars.
michel-stahlberg In person, I immediately think of a brochure with some history describing what Mr. Ferdinand Porsche was up to in Austria.
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Almost all car brands are in Thema, so we have to think carefully about whether that will simply be Cars.

I understand your warning, but the theme has been used here in the same way as the Theme/motifs field is used for Stamps. But under Other the brand is already mentioned as Manufacturer. Theme in Other is intended for overarching concepts, not to enable selections at a detailed level. The other fields serve that purpose.
My instructions are also mainly intended for new imports. The existing entry can remain unchanged initially and can be useful if other fields (Manufacturer/Series) have not yet been completed.
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Collectioneur It wasn't a warning but an observation. As a result of your previous message, this will all be removed as quickly as possible.
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Jummeke Collectioneur michel-stahlberg
But you won't solve everything with the Manufacturer field.
Car brands and manufacturers are different things in the 'car world'.
For example, take a look at Land Rover and who made them all.
You must ensure that you can select by car brand.
Under Theme: Cars.
At Reeks: the car brand.
And sub-series: model/type/variant
And if that's not enough?
Then you use the Type field.
But what I don't quite understand.
And it has nothing to do with this topic.
Was/is the intention to get all the brochures together?
At Comics, the folders are moved to Other and Object Folder.
Under Books, the folders are moved to Other and Object Autofolder.
You could just as well name everything that is currently 'comic related' as a 'comic brochure/comic flyer' as an object.
Or is it too late to change that via Theme & Comics Related?
One of the most important criteria for searching in Other is the 'object', right?
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The intention is that the large number of car brochures/leaflets will have their own section. That is why they are referred to in Other with their own Object. The other folders will be/remain with the Folder object.
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Er, I have to say that I have now lost track a bit, as mentioned earlier, can I use series and sub series for model type? It's getting complicated now. What are the input rules and who will determine them?
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Collectioneur
Will put the question more simply.
Why do Autofolders get their own section and the Stripfolders not?
That 'group' is at least as large if not larger.
You might as well also indicate that large group with the object.
My opinion, but now it comes across as 'discrimination'; 'arbitrariness.
Then you could just as well leave Folder as the object and Cars as the theme.
As with Comics, the object Folder and theme Comics related.
Because after all, they are all brochures.
Or is it too difficult to 'achieve' for 'technical' reasons?


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Read the explanation for the 'Type' field under Other.
There you can decide how you want to select/search/filter.
Regardless of what happens in other fields, you can always work with your own search terms/names here.
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Why do Autofolders get their own section and the Stripfolders not?
That 'group' is at least as large if not larger.

buizer
I'm curious how many comic booklets you counted.
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Buizer, yes that's also good, only in this topic I was also told that I had to use the fields series, so again what do I enter where?, series, type.. or can I decide that myself? If so, this data will not be deleted in the future

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Why do Autofolders get their own section and the Stripfolders not?
That 'group' is at least as large, if not larger.

LastDodo decides this itself. However, we first have to get them up and running, unfortunately it is not that easy.
The number of car brochures, currently spread over several categories, is greater than the number of comic brochures.
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So I can use the Type field for information that I determine and will not be deleted? It can work for me to keep things a bit clear.

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Please enter new items as I indicated:
Manufacturer / publisher = Car brand (Volvo)
Series = Model (1800)
Sub-series = Type (120)

We can then later include the contents of these fields when making Autofolders independent.
Please also respond to the message I sent you.
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No, unfortunately the type field is already used for brochure, price list, press photo, and in the brochure I then sort by type (easy with brochures) so the series and sub series fields do get complicated.

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