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I regularly find price stickers on second-hand albums that are sometimes impossible to remove without running the risk of damaging the album.
A seller I once messaged about this believes that this is not such a problem since the majority of books in stores have a price sticker. I personally believe that a sticker that can no longer be removed disfigures an album. I would rather not have them on and will explicitly ask for them from now on when I buy second hand again.
What is your opinion about price stickers? Does this detract from the album and affect the quality and value of the album?
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A new strip delivered to the store does not have a price label.
Now the retailer puts a price sticker on it for practical reasons.
At least for me they always come off straight away; new or second hand doesn't matter.
The longer the stickers are on, the more difficult they are to remove.
And it disfigures.
And where do they sometimes stick the sticker?
And then there is a difference in the stickers themselves.
One sticks 'harder/better' than another.
And of course it also depends on what requirements you place on a comic...
For example, I know people who combine a sanitary visit with reading comics.
They don't care that there is a sticker on it.
Others collect comics and read them, for example, once. And into the closet.
Or don't read the comic at all. And into the closet.
It just depends from person to person what requirements you place on a comic.
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IJZERBROOD ,
Most stickers can be removed quite easily by heating them with, for example, a hairdryer or an iron.
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I use TEC7 Cleaner for comic albums with a plasticized cover (glossy cover). This comes in a spray can and is available at the DIY store. Apply this spray to a soft cloth and gently remove the paper label and then the remaining adhesive residue. And this works for me in most cases, of course this can also go wrong once in a while.
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March 18, 2024 11:23
To answer the original question:
An album in new condition may only have stickers applied to it by the publisher.
An album with a price sticker from the retailer is by definition no longer new, and yes, that has a negative impact on the collector's value.
If you're lucky, it can be restored to new condition by removing the price sticker without any consequential damage. If that doesn't work, you have a damaged album.
A serious online seller will always mention a price sticker on a second-hand album.

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I remove stubborn stickers with gasoline. Place a cotton pad on the sticker enough that it softens, you can then rub off the sticker and line residue. Please note that with older books there may be a color difference under the sticker,
The gasoline evaporates quickly so be careful with fire.
This is how we do bookbinding restoration.
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I use Zippo lighter gasoline. Soak it thoroughly and start with a sharp knife and then peel it off. Also works with very old stickers. But: patience is a virtue.
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If you have a hairdryer/handheld hairdryer at home, why spend money on petrol and other remedies?
Know that warmth is always an enemy of glue (products).
Just ask philatelists and beer label collectors.
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Let's not talk about the vandals who used stamps to "decorate" our beautiful comics at the time.
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You cannot prevent a collector/seller/owner from writing a name in an album.
Nor do you place/affix a stamp.
Just like you can't ban price stickers.
But rest assured: this will not happen with valuable and antiquarian comics.
And as long as you don't sell comics as a youngster, you ignore the fact that writing names in comics reduces the value.
But usually you only find out when you start selling/buying second-hand comics...
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The foil for the outer layers quickly bubbles even with a hairdryer. Be careful with that. By the way, Buizer: costs KWh and nothing? A can of Zippo lasts 2 years.
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Yes, electricity also costs money.
But everyone looks at it for themselves.
How much does the cheapest can of Zippo cost?
My comic book dealer always delivers albums without a sticker.
Have I ever bought a new comic in a physical store with a sticker?
First job when you get home - remove the sticker and that is very easy without any tools.
For those few second-hand strips I use the hairdryer.
And it's also a bit of art; the first time the result was nothing to write home about.
There was some noise, yes, but with the Zippo there is the smell...
And that's how it always is...


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In the past you had stickers that did their job: stick. Nowadays you have price stickers that are fortunately less sticky
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Most stickers come off very easily.
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Most price stickers only come off albums with sturdy and smooth covers. When it comes to price stickers on magazines, you can forget about it completely. I have received them here in absolutely all shapes and sizes (unfortunately usually with the description 'near new condition', so without mentioning those stickers) and there are virtually no stickers that can be properly removed from a paper magazine. Because either you tear the sheet apart, or you have to make it so wet/warm that it will no longer be slippery even if you were to remove the sticker. Sticker remover works on some albums (plasticized bindings) but eats away ink on many other albums and on almost all magazines, causing white spots to form where and around the sticker.
Stickers on magazines are always disastrous. It also bothers me quite a bit that many (top) traders are still too lazy to mention such a sticker, while they do list magazines as '(almost) new condition'. These people run a great risk of only selling something to me once. I collect magazines with at least a 'clean' front cover. So every song that has such a dirty thing on it is immediately back on my search list. If you then order five magazines to make the postage somewhat acceptable and three of those 'stickered' things are included, you will spend twice as much money and even fewer new magazines than expected.
From now on I will mention it with every order. Can sellers complain about that again, because then I am of course a whiner who is never satisfied (it is strange that of my more than 1000 feedbacks, less than 10 were negative, so why am I never satisfied?)
In answer to the original question: magazines with price stickers are by definition never new condition or near new condition. At most 'reasonable' in my opinion. The same applies to address stickers, although they are often original. But that should also be mentioned and even then you cannot speak of 'new condition' in my opinion.
It should always be mentioned anyway, both on albums and on magazines.
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Or you have to look at it positively.
I am neither an expert nor a collector of magazines, but I would rather think that a price sticker on (older) magazines is an added value...
The nostalgic message it radiates, when you can see that it was once for sale for 5 Francs (Belgian Francs) or 25 cents (0.25 Dutch Guilders). Informative yet an added value...
New condition, I imagine 'as it was for sale in the store'. In the past, this was always with individual price stickers.
Nowadays there is no price sticker anywhere anymore. Sometimes larger stickers with codes, bars and complicated 'QR' drawings.
Once sold, I would think that the condition would always be 'near new condition' - or lower. From that moment on it is second-hand?

Perhaps that is the reason for not mentioning it. In the shops of non-specialists (like me) who look at it differently compared to the real specialists (the die-hards).
In Magazines, in the explanation of the conditions, I can't find anything about price or other stickers.



I would not offer a magazine with a price sticker on it that looks completely new (virgin as if never used) as 'Good condition'...
Or am I missing something?


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Of course it means nothing if the word 'sticker' is not in the description. The word 'perforation' is also not included, but most people will also refer to perforation as damage.
It is not without reason that the 'modest name inside' clearly states: 'if stated'. The plague on LD is precisely the latter. Most sellers are still able to click on 'good' or 'near new condition'. What else is included in the descriptions is eighty percent irrelevant nonsense and what should be there is usually not there. What good is a 'read once' comment? It doesn't matter if it turns out that after reading the coffee was thrown over it, does it? Or that someone has read it with jam/peanut butter, preferably in combination, his or her fingers?
So stupid meaningless information. Just like 'pretty nice quality'. Well, nine times out of ten without a decent image. If attachments are mentioned in the LD description, almost no seller takes the trouble to indicate whether or not they are present.
I recently received three more magazines, otherwise in really new condition, but with store stickers on the front. They really don't belong there because there is a barcode printed on the back. There is also no sticker on the images on LD. So no 'sentimental' value etc. By the way, that is also just an assumption. There are also magazines that have been 'second hand' (i.e. 28th hand or so) for so long that a dealer sticker could just appear on them over the years. I only assume that they are original stickers, if they are also depicted on LD as standard. And then there really aren't that many left.
So stickers on sheets, with old or new prices: as far as I'm concerned, the value is at least halved, and if they cannot be removed, there is at most a residual value as old paper or something like that.


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I would say, only buy in shops where photos have been posted by the seller, and look carefully at the photos of the item on offer, then you will automatically see whether there is a price label. And if in doubt... ask the seller before ordering the item. This way you avoid later surprises.
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I responded as a non-expert, regarding magazines, with the knowledge that LD makes available.
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Perhaps the descriptions of the conditions in magazines should be expanded a little?
I posted a screenshot of the current description, and didn't see anything about a (price) sticker there. If that's a source of annoyance for more serious collectors...
Fortunately, I have never offered a magazine on LD, I may have done it wrong. Just as many people are now apparently doing it wrong.
Actually, if one is traded as 'near new condition' and there is a sticker on it, then you don't have a leg to stand on (if the object has no signs of wear).
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Don't want to change this too quickly.
Many collectors of different magazines would like a price sticker (placed by the retailer) on the magazine and believe that this has added value.

The fact is that here too (as in all sections) it must be mentioned. Preferably with clear photos. But apparently buyers don't care much about that, because the items without their own images are being sold in abundance.
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A general mention could be added in that 'conditions overview' info window, right?
"Please note: if the offered item has a (price) sticker, this must be mentioned in the comments! It is of course better to add your own image of the offered object."

Or something.
Currently...
If one is now traded as 'near new condition' and there is a sticker on it, then you don't have a leg to stand on (if the object has no signs of wear).
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Including it in a manual makes little sense. Anyone who adds items barely reads that manual. Those who sell even less, and those who only buy will not read it at all.
The explanation of the conditions is present where it matters. It only takes one click and you know it (is in front of you).
The conditions have an i (in a blue circle) with literally 'Explanation of conditions' as a link next to it. Double. For those who cannot read the symbol, and for those who do not understand symbols as text.
If you mention it, you as a buyer always have a point.
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As pegag said:
An album in new condition may only have stickers applied to it by the publisher.

If things are important to you as a buyer (such as price stickers), it is advisable to ask specifically when ordering.
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If magazines on LastDodo are shown without a sticker on the front, I assume that is the original 'look'. It seems normal to me that a seller indicates that his copy differs in that sense from the depicted copy. And of course: your own scan (preferably one that shows something and that does not only show pixels after 1 enlargement) or photo is always better.
I have never heard of regular 'normal' and longer-running magazines that were sold separately with price labels as standard. If so, then it was a hobby of the retailer himself or it concerns a sticker from a second-hand copy at that time.
And again: not every collector will be bothered by it. Many do. And in practice, magazines show that 95% of them cannot be removed without discoloration or damage. So I just don't want those things. Hopefully I'll remember to mention it again with every order. It's just a shame that some sellers simply answer that they don't have time to check that. Apparently the customer has to take the risk and send them back afterwards and so on. Bizarre of course if you indicate it in advance. But yes, there are quite a few bizarre sellers.
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An interesting discussion again on LastDodo.
With a number of interesting points of view, which cannot be reconciled in one unambiguous definition.

Agree with most of it. Magazines are often not in new condition. If there is a cellophane around it, then yes. But otherwise it is difficult to determine. Also because people browse through them in stores.
Even almost new is not that common, in my opinion.

When I offer magazines, my highest quality is generally good condition. But yes, I think so. New and almost new are exceptions for me.

I also think that adjusting that quality indicator is a bit short-sighted. Just as Tammo indicates. First think about it before we adjust things that are then difficult to reverse.

I'm going to read this thread carefully a few times and let it sink in. The options and thoughts are fine, by the way. I can do something with this.

What about adding comments about condition by sellers. I especially agree with this for the comics-related items in Magazines and Newspapers. For the rest, a little less (usually), because it is less important there.

I'll get back to it, but it might take a while. This will keep me busy for the next few days, I can already say that. :D

By the way, I understand the frustration of vergetenboek very well. That's not the issue.

And Raoul62 thanks for introducing me to this thread. Otherwise I would most likely have missed it.

Gr. Peter
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