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Why are certain coins colored?
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Purely for commercial reasons. A colored coin is no longer a coin, but a token. No legal tender.
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Tower stamps Why are they then under the heading coins: Types: Colored coins?
And this one under Pennies: 2009785 , 2009781 .
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Apparently those items were entered in the wrong section.
In a free non-numeric field, put 'Wrong section Move to Coins'.
The super admins can then do the necessary to move the items to the correct section.
As a user you cannot do this yourself.

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There is a whole bunch of colored coins under the tokens section, not just the above 2 numbers. I just gave an example.
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euroverzamelaar I don't know anything about coins, so leave it to the experts (or maybe you can figure it out yourself). A coin is a means of payment, a token is not.
Just as an example, the 2 euros, of which 6 are listed with coins and all the rest with tokens --> it seems logical that those 6 are wrong.
But maybe there are other countries in the world where there are real coins, so there is a kind of 'colored coins', but I don't think for euros.
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Interesting Theme.
Both of these are in Malta #9682159 and #9682155
What I can make of it and this is also in the details this is not legal tender, it says, Non-circulating currency
So they belong with the Tokens / Medals
There are also many 3 Euro coins in the Catalog of Austria and Slovenia, but these are legal tender in these countries.
So far I have only looked at the 3 Euro coins.
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Coins that have not been in circulation are worth more Lyonesse , that's called proof, the highest rating in coins.
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Usually it suffices to look something up What is the meaning of penny and coin.
'Flat' discs with which you can pay are coins.
Flat discs with which you cannot pay are tokens.
But to make it a bit difficult.
The Royal Mint regularly issues 'occasional coins'.
Often they have no payment power.
Those are non-circulating coins.
@Pokie @Vdv correct/complete

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buizer fazerco Lyonesse user-1713548 euroverzamelaar

These are colored coins that are not officially manufactured. The coloring is therefore an addition that does not come from the mints and is therefore not an official production.

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It's not about sticking to my examples whether the coins are worth more (they usually are) but whether these coins belong in the Coin Catalogue.
One can collect them but one cannot pay with them, and this is what matters in my opinion.
Or am I seeing this wrong.
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And how do you know it's "official"? Is there such a thing as a list that you can refer to?
Or do you have to look for it in catalogs of coins?
There are also (euro) coins that hardly or hardly 'circulate' and still have payment power. Collectible coins, actually.
And you can't know everything.
For example, the old former coin of 500 BEF is/was indeed a circulating coin(piece).
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These are colored coins that are not officially manufactured.
Colored coins that are not coins. Are we still correct with the reasoning (see my previous post).
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buizer Those who collect and know their way around can certainly find out whether it has been issued by the official mints.
It is the 'intent' that counts and not the rarity. Euro coins from the Vatican and Monaco are almost impossible to find, but they are a means of payment and no one (?) is crazy enough to take a Proof out of its plastic box.
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I'll ask the question differently. How do I know that I can pay with a certain 'coin'?
And I'm not talking about Vatican or Monaco.
But eg a 10 euro coin from Germany or another country.
Pay with it in a store: guaranteed that it will be refused X times.
So on to the next bakery?
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With a 10 euro from Germany you can only pay in Germany
So legal tender.
So with the coins.
Google it, takes less than a minute.
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Here you will find a lot of information and you will be busy for a few hours.
For the collector coins you have to go to the site of the national bank of each country or in a catalogue, but the collectors know where to find it.
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And how am I supposed to know that I can only pay in Germany with that euro from Germany?
While it is true that you can pay with euros in all countries that have the euro as their currency.
And are issued by the Royal Mint of Germany.
Officially so.
Which would mean that I can only pay there with those 10 euros from France.
That goes completely against why the euro was created / came into being.
There are also people who get hold of such a coin and want to pay with it, if that is possible of course. And you can't read that on the coin itself...
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buizer Have you started reading the link I gave you yet?
There is 1 important sentence: "Euro coins come in eight different denominations: 1, 2, 5, 10, 20 and 50 cents, and 1 euro and 2 euro". All the rest are 'extras'. Not just invented, it's all in legislation.
Germany's 10 euro is a bit of a special case. And don't be blinded by the issuer, almost all 'commemorative coins' (tokens without payment value) are also issued by a national institution.
For those who know Belgium, there is a small nuance: The institution that manages the payment money is the National Bank (you will never find those special coins there). The institution that makes 'pieces of metal' is the Royal Mint, so they make both coins and collectibles.
Those who really want to know it all have to look into it, just like a stamp collector knows all the color differences and a comic collector knows all the reprints.
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For our Dutch friends (found on the web, so maybe someone can add): 5 and 10 euro coins, these euro coins are made as commemorative coins and issued by the Royal Dutch Mint. These coins are issued separately or in coin cards and are considered legal tender.
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I once tried to pay with a Dutch 5 euro coin in NL. She was rejected everywhere.
You can hand them in at an exchange office not mentioned here for 5 euros.
Also foreign euros. I understand that you will be deducted a % from this.
So that 'legal tender' is rather relative.
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So that 'legal tender' is rather relative.

"What a farmer does not know, he does not eat".
Shopkeepers are very wary of being saddled with counterfeit money (excess) and usually only accept money that they can spend immediately. You can hardly pay anywhere with a banknote larger than € 50, despite the fact that those banknotes are legal tender.
Those kinds of "separate" coins and large bills can often only be deposited at a bank where they have better means of verification.
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"What a farmer does not know, he does not eat".
Beats.
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Sometimes it is also very simple.
A 31 gram heavy silver collector coin of 20 Turkish Lira has a
monetary value of 66 euro cents.
Of course you can't buy such a coin for that.
So you're not going to pay with that either, although I think a baker would like you there
gives a loaf of bread.
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