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Best,
would like to add (or change, etc. if necessary),
concerning Book series Lekturama Great Mysteries. (translated from Aldus Books London English books).

Now I'm a bit lost in connection with the years.
I myself (when published) obtained the 16 volumes, unfortunately no covers anymore for visual comparison.
None of these concerns the Dutch year 1976.
Furthermore, LD mentions first edition, reprint and first edition reissue.
Ok, everything is possible, but due to the lack of insides you don't actually know who entered what (perhaps incorrectly, etc.).

Long story short: I've looked through catalogues, etc. for reference, and yes Lekturama is an 'ahem' hard to trace item with editions/years.

Is Brinkman's Cumulative Catalog (years 76,77,78,80) a representative representation of actual first publications in the Netherlands? (there is no mention of possible reprints unfortunately). (Brinkman's first Great Mysteries entry only starts in 1978, earlier years > not for GM, but on Lekturama as name)

If Brinkman's were correct, are the editions with the years (don't mean the © years of Aldus, but the latest (highest year in the novel)) then also the first editions?
Would anyone mind explaining something?

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Dear Leike-w You have the books, so you know what dates are in them. The correct date is (c) Lekturama and not (c) Thus. Furthermore, you can safely assume that they are all first edition. Lekturama was not in the habit of reprinting such series. They were happy when the entire trade was sold.

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Thanks for the answer, (unfortunately no © Lekt .. only if the last © XXM etc ... the Aldus © have lower (English) or the same year).
but the problem persists ... if I change something, the 'old' data must change (wrong?), and whether I may do that (according to Brinkman's, those books were not there yet in 1976). So to avoid duplication and to remove incorrect items. Hence. (call it cleaning up).

Of course it was nice to keep the dust jackets, and adjust the rest of course.
I can only add the 'black' art form with gold print).

editing: there are only 16 copies, but there are more in there.

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Just take the highest year in it. According to the KB these books were not published before 1978 either. It is often the case that the original copyright date is entered (usually in the absence of other dates).

You can at least change the years where they do not match what is in your copy, and then you will automatically see duplications arise.

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The roman numbered copyrights belong to Christoph Columbus Verlag, and I suspect that they correspond with the mention in the Brinkman.

Apparently they were printed in several languages at the time (according to the colophon in Yugoslavia), which makes the existence of reprints unlikely.

You could email the collectors and sellers of the 1976 items to check their colophon, but I don't think there's a chance anyone actually has such an older version.

Previously they will only have appeared in English on Aldus (partly as a "new enlarged edition"), but I am convinced that this Dutch series only appeared (as the first edition) in 1978 and 1979.

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Although I generally agree with comic strip pins. There are still a few question marks. I started looking for those original editions of Aldus. With the exception of a few, these are almost impossible to find. I did think that Aldus has reprinted (expanded) a number of them and reprinted a number in 1979 and expanded the series? or another title.

According to the KB, a Dutch editorial team was active and these are not simply translations.

And finally there is at least one title that has been published with three different covers. And however you turn it, those are different books.

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September 10, 2020 22:37

I see that Mysteries of the dream does indeed exist with two different dust jackets, but both copies offered by The Caller's shop ( 2115741 en 1801733 ) have exactly the same colophon page. That is indeed a great mystery.

(Where can you find that third cover?)

Given the co-production, the Dutch editorial staff (which is indeed also mentioned in the colophon) will only have been able to adapt the texts.

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Also puzzling: 3731581 (Enigmatic finds from the past) has been marked as a duplicate of 1463161 (Enigmatic disappearances).

The dust jacket can be found in this auction .

Edit: and then there were only 15 parts....

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@enigma: those reprints have already been released as NL (only exist once, I think)
Will have gotten / bought the rights after the english extended editions were released.

Yes @stripspeldjes it is a mystery ... from my gray cells (if it still works) I think I had version 1801733. I just pasted 'Cover art by Gino D'Achille' inside flap behind the cover.

Once surfed on the net I come across the image of 2115741 with the year 1987 ???
Lalala

It's just as well that I first ask ...

So I know a bit more, but go on hold for a moment.
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September 12, 2020 18:18

Here I am again, after a lot of pastime, I think I may draw conclusions.
The entries of 1976 were 'probably' imported at some point with the original English forms (not checked 100% English, as there are 2 or 3 publishers and even some loose forms for those years (writer)).
In searches of Worldcat, Anet, DNB, KB, OBa, opac, Erasmus, Brinkman's and others none of 1976 is mentioned.
All 1978 and 1979. (of course wanted NL editions with/by year)

So to the administrators if they want to believe me, the first 12 parts (year 1976 out; but a waste of image 1 (Man and his gods; only 1x in it).

Furthermore 3 errors on 2116059 2116163 2116139.
volume compared to the colophon placed. Didn't want to change anything yet. Poll first (and agree?)

Thank you
(ps saved search results). Total 16 parts (also applies to English Aldus version of GM)
(ps 2 leave out the german editions > they have 2 versions: Moderner Buchvertrieb Und Verlag GmbH where Glarus Christoph Kolumbus Verlags AG has the same year or 1 later ) And there are covers up to 3 times different in circulation.)

quote: @stripspeldjes Also puzzling: 3731581 (Enigmatic finds from the past) has been marked as a duplicate of 1463161 (Enigmatic disappearances).
no none then only 15 (as deleted??)
> those are really 2 separate parts, see them here on my shelf .

Closing: the series is probably (have not) rolled out of the The Supernatural series (21 parts) Collage images on cover, sometimes used (part) as cover on GM series (Eng,Nl,German ..ea ?)

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September 12, 2020 18:46

That's right, Leo.

3731581 was by someone (not by me) incorrectly changed to "duplication of 1463161 ".

An administrator then incorrectly deleted the first one, so we now have a part too few in the series.

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September 12, 2020 18:58

I will put that in, unfortunately it has no cover ...
Thank you

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Nah yeah, a little update ..

About Mysteries of the dream original title: was Psychic voyages and Dream worlds (loose and merged) in 1976 and became Mysteries of the inner self in 1978 (new enl ed). So I changed that. Sorry administrator ..

(to make it complete, there have also been changes in the leatherette / fabric book covers themselves, black nl + german, blue unanimous (in german version) and with a kind of 'pentagram, brownish' in France).

I dare not change anything else in the catalog so as not to offend collectors and sellers.
As far as I can filter out there are 16 NL parts of which 1 has 2 different covers, and 1 someone has an attachment. Years 1978 and higher.

If it helps anyone: you're welcome, otherwise thank you for reading.

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