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March 07, 2010 18:54

For the different types of alcoholic drinks, different rules apply with regard to determining the state.
Whiskey, for example, does not decay and is valued according to the content of the bottle, whether opened or unopened. Wine, on the other hand, does perish and has only a limited shelf life when opened.
However, the bottle can still have value when it comes to a special label (eg from a cartoonist). The condition of the contents of the bottle is less important.
How do we handle this? I can imagine that the value of half a bottle is used for the whiskey when it is in good condition.
For example, we could give reasonable condition to empty bottles in all cases. These too can have a collective value.
who has ideas?

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April 21, 2010 08:57

For example, we could give reasonable condition to empty bottles in all cases. These too can have an aggregate value.

Sure, my supermarket values most beers in fair condition at 10 cents per item.

Just kidding, maybe in this case you should create the ability to rate container and content separately.
Think of the KLM houses and the "leidse peipies" where the content has no intrinsic value and the container is the actual collector's item. New condition is of course the non-soldierly made condition, but good and reasonable here mainly concerns the condition of the container, not the content.

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December 03, 2011 15:24

I just found out that the bottles of wine and beer in my shop were just downgraded to "Half Full Bottle". This seems to have happened with all bottles offered in the Alcoholic / Beverage section.

It is of course a small effort to correct it, but it would have been nice if the concerned sellers had been informed of this automatic adjustment.

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December 03, 2011 16:22

It is of course a small effort to correct it, but it would have been nice if the concerned sellers had been informed of this automatic adjustment.

You are absolutely right.
I'm going to "just" send a message to all shops and collectors.
I had already planned to do that, but the entire section has recently been adjusted on almost all points, and because it took two weeks, I completely missed that intention when checking all the adjustments.
Sorry.

The explanation of the catalog value must also be adjusted + some other things.

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December 03, 2011 16:58

Thanks.

I see that there are more things that have been misconverted in a very strange way. As with 1023231 and 1023233 .

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December 03, 2011 17:39

I have also sent an email to every collector who has not hidden his collection.
Unfortunately, I cannot see whether people who hide their collection have a drink at home, or whether they are among the collectors because of a link from another section in this section.

At 1023231 I don't see any strange things, or you must mean the condition of Carl's bottle.
Carl also just got an email from me, so it's up to him to change it. (edit, he has now also done I see)

Most will have specified the highest quality with a full bottle, so I expect most have gone well.

At 1023233 is normal for size, while it is clearly a thumbnail.

This is not the result of a wrong conversion, but is because if you do not enter anything for format, the format "normal" is always entered there.
This also applies if you edit an item.

In this case it is because someone (outside the drink section, I don't understand that this is still possible) has been checked.
Apparently that is also seen as an adjustment

If the format is still automatically read for all current items, then this error will be overwritten.
That should have happened this week, but he hasn't gotten around to it yet.

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December 03, 2011 18:04

Both bottles are not pure gnome and no gin. Both are by Herman Jansen (who also made the Louter Kabouter brand, which I don't think is the brand of this, just as with 1023211 ) and both are liqueur, resp. Blue Curaçao and Cherry Brandy (which are missing as Subspecies).

The history shows that there has been a lot of fiddling with it and I cannot explain anything other than that names have been changed behind the scenes.

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December 03, 2011 18:10

That is absolutely, 100% separate from the recent changes.

Chevy can't merge names, and I haven't done it yet.
I think this has really been adjusted in the item itself.

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December 03, 2011 18:16

Okay. Has anyone there acted in a fit of insanity? Or were they originally in a different section, where the data had some logic?

P.S. Can an administrator add new subspecies to the closed list ?! Or should René do that?

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December 03, 2011 18:18

Or were they originally in a different section, where the data had some logic?

No, I could see that.

Okay. Has anyone there acted in a fit of insanity?

I see that the importer has put "mere gnome" in the title. (above "liqueur" I think I can see a gnome, that may be the reason)
That is where the confusion will come from.

P.S. Can an administrator add new subspecies to the closed list ?! Or should René do that?

We still have to work with subspecies and regions.
Chevy can indicate what she wants, and then I'll add that.
She is the boss there, I only interfere temporarily because of the conversion.

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December 03, 2011 23:37

"Louter Kabouter" comes from the advertising slogan: Drink Louter Kabouter. see: 2018195 The little gnome that adorned the bottles for a long time is Pinneke Proost and was designed by Marten Toonder and executed by Hans G. Kresse. All this can be read in 415805

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December 04, 2011 10:03
With the exception of that truck, it just drives around Groningen.
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December 04, 2011 10:32

For enough money, everything is for sale.

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December 04, 2011 22:21

Small question: isn't it duplicate that thumbnails are listed separately under "Type of drink", while you can also choose Normal or Miniature under "Bottle size"?

And not that there aren't enough fields already, but doesn't "Cap type" also make sense?
(Cork, champagne cap, crown cap, screw cap, twist-off, bracket, etc.)

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December 04, 2011 23:13

Isn't it duplicate that thumbnails are listed separately under "Type of drink", while you can also choose Normal or Miniature under "Bottle size"?

We are still working on it Peter.
The format bottle is a new field, and this is precisely the purpose that you do not have to specify more and more miniatures with the type names.
It is the intention that Koos enters the format "thumbnail" for all types with thumbnail in their name, and for all other types the format "normal"
Then I am going to merge the species names, and withdraw as the administrator of this section.
The duplicate situation is therefore temporary, just like the fact that "region" and "subspecies" are now not properly classified (cola is of course not a regional drink), plus a few other things that you have not yet discovered. (and which I'm not going to hang on your nose either ;-)

And not that there are not enough fields already, but is "Cap type" not also useful?

I don't know.
I myself am not eager to add another field.
Do you think there is a lot of demand for such a field?

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It is not a section that I am overly interested in, so it is not necessary for me. I came across some similar bottles with different closures, so I was wondering.

Incidentally, it does not seem possible to select by brewer / bottler, i.e. there are a few but you will not get any results.
EDIT: I can see what is happening, they will be listed under Curiosities.

P.S. Who is Koos again?

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It is not a section that I am overly interested in, so it is not necessary for me. I came across some similar bottles with different closures, so I was wondering.

Everything is possible.
But if you do everything, you will get a lot of fields.
If it turns out that there is a lot of demand for it, I think it's fine, but at the moment maybe not yet.

Incidentally, it does not seem possible to select by brewer / bottler, i.e. there are a few but you will not get any results.
EDIT: I can see what is happening, they will be listed under Curiosities.

Ai, I hadn't seen that yet.
Edit: this has now been resolved.

P.S. Who is Koos again?

One of the programmers from the Catawiki team ( you probably know him as Kozy )

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