Music/Country agreements84 messages

Gebruik de Nederlandse beschrijving van een land. Dit om een warboel te voorkomen.
Als we internationaal willen gaan met Catawiki kunnen we natuurlijk ook kiezen voor Engelstalige namen van landen.
Voorbeelden:
Nederland ipv Holland
Verenigd Koninkrijk ipv UK, G.Brittain, England etc.
Duitsland ipv Germany of Deutschland
Verenigde Staten ipv US, USA, America etc.
België
Frankrijk ipv France etc.

Use the Dutch description of a country. This is to avoid a mess.
If we want to go international with Catawiki, we can of course also opt for English-language names of countries.
Examples:
Netherlands instead of Holland
United Kingdom instead of UK, G.Brittain, England etc.
Germany instead of Germany or Deutschland
United States instead of US, USA , America etc.
Belgium
France instead of France etc.

Here I still think that the mention on the label should be copied, Although that will not always be the case with a Slavic name, I don't have the letters on the keyboard just like Japan, etc.
England is a bit different UK
but that does indeed sometimes give a messy whole,

The intention is that you know in which country it was produced? Deutschland, Germany or Germany. They all indicate the same country, right?
As for England and UK: I have never come across a record from Wales or Scotland :-)

Can a definitive answer be given about the country names to be used. especially USA and England? Because a lot is used interchangeably, this causes confusion!

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Punt is dat er op dit moment is gekozen voor de Nederlandse naamgeving, (zoals ik eerder heb aangegeven ben ik meer een voorstander van wat op de drager wordt vermeld dus UK, USA, etc) maar ben het niet eens met de vervuiling.
Dit kunnen we zelf gewoon aanpassen als we het tegenkomen kwestie van alert reageren en even aanpassen.
Maar inderdaad snel een richtlijn waar ieder zich aan kan houden

The point is that the Dutch naming has been chosen at the moment (as I have indicated earlier, I am more in favor of what is stated on the carrier, so UK, USA , etc.), but I do not agree with the pollution.
We can simply adjust this ourselves if we encounter the issue of reacting alertly and adjusting it.
But indeed a quick guideline that everyone can adhere to

I recently performed a Zappa LP. The label and sleeve read EMI England. So I also entered England as the country name. Now that is changed to United Kingdom by an administrator. So this is not correct…

This discussion has been done before.
It has been agreed in the past that we will use UK, Germany, etc
whether we are happy with that?
see my comment literally take over from label etc.
that's why I changed that

In fact, this is not correct, no matter how easy it is. England is a part of the United Kingdom (I'm not telling anything new I guess), but if it says EMI England it will be that there is very likely another EMI exists. I have also seen on LPs that it sometimes says Great Britain, so they themselves do make a difference, why should we know better than they?

Just a little geography lesson :-)
United Kingdom (the country) consists of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Great Britain consists of England, Wales and Scotland.
So you have to v * & amp % know what you are talking about, because of course it is stupid if you use the names of countries of which you do not really know the impact.

nice aren't those discussions?

Many CDs say: Made in the EU, also such a complex country. Recently I had one from the BeNeLux. "It remains difficult to post that.

Hmm, nice, you don't know exactly where the carrier comes from. UK is not UK, but England often uses UK itself.
But if it literally says England, it has to be England, not UK.
Then you can also say Benelux instead of the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. America is that big too, but it doesn't use specific country names, just America.
Shall we just do Europe, America, Asia, Australia and Africa?

There is a site gemm.com, there are a lot of Zappa LPs and many of them state as the country EU, while the price is abnormally high. Presumably a special pressing, but I have not yet figured out what is so special about the EU.

EU Heb altijd begrepen dat we daar wijzer van werden!
Vaak staat bij EU toch wel een aanwijzing welk productie land het is.
Maar toch kan de waarde van een album aanzienlijk schelen: gemaakt in USA zelfde productie jaar mnd_ maar zelfs dan zit er verschil in waarde waar hij gemaakt is welke staat of stad._
Maar inderdaad duidelijkheid is gewenst

EU Always understood that it made us wiser!
Often there is an indication at EU which production country it is.
But still the value of an album can differ considerably: made in USA same production year month_ but even then there is a difference in value where it was made which state or city._
But clarity is indeed required

Beste Dick52,
Zoals je hebt gezien ben ik het invoeren van mijn CD verzameling begonnen met Bat out of hell van Meat Loaf.
Mij viel op dat je bij het goedkeuren van mijn upload het land van de CD hebt veranderd van Nederland naar Oostenrijk. Dit natuurlijk naar aanleiding van het feit dat op de CD “Made in Austria” staat.
Deze versie is echter specifiek voor de Nederlandse markt gemaakt (ook gezien het feit dat BIEM/STEMRA op zowel de CD zelf als de cover wordt vermeld). Begrijp ik het nou goed dat je ondanks dit toch wilt dat het land dat op de CD wordt vermeld moet worden aangehouden?
Bij zoeken in google naar CDEPC 82419 kom ik bij “rateyourmusic.com” namelijk “Netherlands” als land van deze CD release tegen….
De volgende CD die ik wil invoeren (Meat Loaf – Dead Ringer – Vinyl LP release 1981, 1e Nederlandse CD release 1985 – CDEPC 83645) heeft namelijk op de binnenrand van de CD “Manufactured in Japan” staan, maar op de cover wederom “Printed in Holland”. Bij rateyourmusic.com wordt ook deze CD release aangemerkt als “Netherlands” ...
Groetjes, chijanofuji

Dear Dick52,
As you've seen I started entering my CD collection with Bat out of hell by Meat Loaf.
I noticed that when approving my upload you changed the country of the CD from the Netherlands to Austria. This of course in response to the fact that the CD says “Made in Austria”.
However, this version was made specifically for the Dutch market (also considering that BIEM /STEMRA is mentioned on both the CD itself and the cover). Do I understand correctly that despite this you still want the country mentioned on the CD to be used?
When searching in google for CDEPC 82419 I come across “Netherlands” as the country of this CD release at “rateyourmusic.com”….
The next CD I want to import (Meat Loaf – Dead Ringer – Vinyl LP release 1981, 1st Dutch CD release 1985 – CDEPC 83645 ) has “Manufactured in Japan” on the inner edge of the CD, but on the cover again “Printed in Holland". At rateyourmusic.com this CD release is also marked as “Netherlands” ...
Regards, chijanofuji

Can't there be a drop-down list of all countries already entered? this saves some typing….

@ chijanofuji zoals ik al in PB aan je heb aangegeven is er gekozen om het land waar de drager is gemaakt (geperst)te vermelden. en inderdaad zijn er in andere landen persingen gemaakt voor een specifiek land “241401” geperst in Zweden voor de Nederlandse markt

@ chijanofuji as I have already indicated to you in PM, it has been chosen to state the country where the carrier was made (pressed). and indeed there are pressings made in other countries for a specific country “ 241401 ” pressed in Sweden for the Dutch market

Now that the dropdown menu may have some post-meal mustard, England doesn't exist as a country, neither do Wales and Scotland. They are part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain. Hence, everything that comes from England will come under the United Kingdom.
We do not include Friesland and Holland, perhaps for some unfortunately, because these are provinces.

In itself I think that the country for which the album was released provides more information than the country in which the album was pressed.

We initially also used United Kingdom instead of England until users here indicated that they wanted the country that is on the label of the record. And many records really say Made in England. Made in Great Britain is also common.
So I left England and Great Britain in the country list. However, someone has already removed the latter.

In my view a somewhat strange discussion, because England is not a country and should therefore not appear in the country table.
Great Britain is, as I mentioned earlier, an abbreviation for United Kingdom of Great Britain. VK stands for the same as GB. I don't seem to add anything if both or rather all 3 are maintained.
The argument for Benelux that is used earlier in the discussion is not entirely correct. Benelux is a trade association between the three countries. The abbreviation Benelux cannot be interpolated to the country of production, so you cannot use anything other than Benelux.
The other way around is possible, there are no province tables, but country tables. England is part of the state of UK or GB & amp; NI and can be extrapolated to that level.

UK = All of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales

GB = England, Wales and Scotland

Europe and Benelux are also not the same.

UK is the sovereign state, GB and England are part of it. The country is therefore UK.

I do not understand your comment about Europe and Benelux.

now England is used and Great Britain.

Consequence
England = England
Great Britain = United Kingdom.

Benelux is also sometimes used, it can often be traced where it comes from, but Benelux is consciously used why deviate from it.

This also applies to EU, EEG , etc that can also be traced back but I choose European Union

This is not Europe!

I have previously listed the ascription of VK and GB, see above.
This is a repetition of moves. Doesn't anyone read old posts ? ??
Great Britain is NOT United Kingdom !!!!