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Can this JIangnan helicopter with remote control be used with model cars or better with toys?
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I once looked at Model Cars.
There are 242 helicopters in there alone, yes Lol.
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Because the section is called Model Cars, it does not mean that there are only models of cars in that section. There are also 2200 motorcycles in this section. If you know of a better, internationally recognized name, we would like to hear from you.
It is about the distinction between models and toys, there will sometimes be an overlap.
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Maybe then back to the origins: reduced object based on real ones ?
then gives, for example, a miniature model (replica). (e.g. for subs: car, boat, plane, train...)
everything that deviates from this is 'real' toys. Would be my idea.

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If one Googles one, one comes across such a toy.
Toy models / Miniatures
Or here in Germany, Spielzeugmodelle / Miniaturen
In English, Tiny Toys Models
In French something like, Modèles de Jouets / Miniatures
This name covers a lot, from Cars to Helicopters, Tractors, Trucks, Motorcycles, etc.
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Lyonesse Collectioneur Leike-w lordernie
You have the Model Trains/Model Railway section.
The name says it all: trains (or locomotives) that can run on a model railway.
Think of Jouef and Marklin bv.
There are the manufacturers of model cars. For example Matchbox and Dinky Toys.
But they didn't just make/make model cars.
Trains, locomotives, airplanes, motorcycles, helicopters, agricultural vehicles,...
Toy = play and good = a good/thing/object to play with.
Model car: reduced representation of a model that may or may not exist.
Can you play along?
You can also collect.
For the 6-year-old toddler, the latest Matchbox that his daddy gives him is a new toy...
Give me that new matchbox as a gift and it will go in my collection and never be played with...
Matchbox was and still is a toy.
Although it is collected by millions of people.
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I understand everything.
If it says Model Trains / Model Railroads, people expect Trains, etc. there
If it says Model Cars / Car Miniatures, people expect Cars and not Helicopters, etc
That's why Collectioneur asked if they could think of another name for this area, which I did, see post above, nothing more and nothing less. What is done with it?
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Lyonesse Collectioneur Leike-w
We'll make an attempt.
You have the Scale field in the model cars section.
All 'objects/things in the model car section normally have a scale'.
So they are scale models.
Definition of scale model: something that has been reproduced in the correct proportions in miniature.
So that covers cars, motorcycles, trains, planes, helicopters, road signs, even people (e.g. Batman in the car) and buildings (garage, parking tower,...).
- Scale models
- Models à l'échelle
- Scale Models
- Skalamodell .
* 'Scale models' that have nothing to do with transportation can (then) be placed in other categories. E.g. the Atomium, Eiffel Tower, animals,... at Figurines.,
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buizer is certainly a good proposal, but unfortunately scale models are not entirely applicable either.
from the earlier posting: Matchbox: used to be the norm: as long as they fit in a matchbox. a beetle may be the same size as a bus, but that only means a reduction in size, right? and no scale.
then the term 'Thumbnails' is more appropriate, and yes, that may require subsections?
It is and remains a proposal, as you now notice, it immediately raises other conditions/wishes/would like to see that... again.
And if something like this is preferred: ...change something again..grumble, grumble.
The broom is on its way through the catalogue, but there are still dust pockets. ;-)
It is more the 'value' (intrinsic) attributed to 'something' that belongs/is desired in the foreground, right?
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Leike-w
Yes, you can keep going like that.
Matchbox is the exception here that confirms the rule.
And how long were those boxes really the size of a matchbox?
Then you are really talking about the initial period.
Miniatures. I thought it was also used for figurines as a species.
If you type 72 categories at the top of the scale model on the home page, you will get exactly 5 results.
So then you are not in anyone's way with that name
And I thought so, but wanted to keep the names as short as possible.
The only thing you need to change is the name. And a little longer than that
Model cars then become Scale Models Mobile (automobile - self-moving) And then you can come across again that the gas pump and garage are not mobile.
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I'll see what you make of it.
But the word Skalamodell in German is certainly not good.
A Skala is used on a unit of measurement
The good German word is Skalenmodelle
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Yes Lyonesse Was you willing? I speak with Jean-Marie Pfaff Deutsch...
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buizer
Just ask next time and don't just fill in something that is incorrect.
There are more multilingual people here on the forum than you think.
Another little lesson in German, if you don't know a person, don't write or say, Was willst du, maar, Was wollen Sie
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VAT Lyonesse I don't think you know Jean-Marie Pfaff, although world famous in Germany...
Or is laughing occasionally forbidden?
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I think Jean-Marie is more famous than you think, buizer
#647731 #725755 #1333205
Comic book hero, actor, singer... and he played football too!

Also lent his voice in the Flemish version of Kung Fu Panda to the character Master Monkey. In the Dutch version it was Jörgen Raymann. Originally it was Jackie Chan. Still a great honor to be able to replace Jackie Chan's voice.
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Well Raoul62 I wrote world famous after all.
But apparently not known by our southern neighbor who lives in Germany.
Or he's not a football fan...
And then we are silent about the 'penalty kicks'
Watched the video again. It is and remains history.
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Anyway, it was about 'inventing' an international word.
buizer you favor scale model, I favor miniature.
It is and remains what you derive from the meaning of the 'name' (definition and properties).
Let's wait and see if there are more proposals, right?

(Pfaff? oh dear, I always clicked away from the TV..did I miss something? ) :-p)
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Yes Leike-w of course miniature is also a good name.
But I think this is about wanting to bring together everything that is 'mobile': everything you can use to move (car, motorcycle, bicycle, helicopter, boat, plane, tractor,... and everything related to it). (gas station, garage, traffic sign,...).
And the term/description thumbnail is already frequently used in other categories.
Which can be confusing. By the way, there are still a number of cars next to statues.
But if they come from surprise eggs, for example, the agreement is that they come in Other.
Go to the home page of LD (that is, the one with the 72 categories).
Type a scale model. And type thumbnail.
So suppose you now change model cars to scale model and then tap above scale model, you will not see all those other miniatures.
If you really apply everything strictly, then you can actually revise everything.
Then Records and CDs are no longer a correct name.
And I now see that there are also a pack of miniatures next to perfume bottles.
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well... maybe just wait for 'Aviation' to see how that is handled, it is similar.
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well... maybe just wait for 'Aviation' to see how that is handled, it is similar.

Absolutely not.
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What a discussion my JIangnan helicopter is causing
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lordernie Hopefully you see it positively? There is always something to learn in such a discussion on many levels.
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Leike-w that's why I do it :-)
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I would put that helicopter with the toys. Model cars That's where you put your beautiful luxury cars. Just like in the most expensive shopping street in Amsterdam. You can also park your car in a parking garage there.
I would land the helicopter near the toys. And then there will be an option for electric toys. Model cars are not toy cars, not even with a motor. Ok don't get angry? I also did something wrong at first.
I also want to thank everyone for correcting my things.

Greetings Ronald.
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