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  • March 31, 2023 18:52
March 31, 2023 18:52
Dear forum members,
I find a number of Tintins in the belongings of my deceased father.
Like this one: https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/items/24301-de-scepter-van-ottokar

However, the copy that I have (apart from the bad condition) deviates from the description regarding the red letters, but it is 1947.

Is there anyone who can tell me if this is the same? Or that I have a strange specimen here?

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March 31, 2023 19:00
fkimman
You shouldn't look at the year, that's the copyright date. Probably from 1954???
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March 31, 2023 20:29
I'm pretty sure this copy appeared before August 19, 1953 ;-)

So it will #772304 be, or possible #847587 . Compare the back.
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  • March 31, 2023 20:31
March 31, 2023 20:31
Morits Thank you for your comment. I'll have a look at the other 'Ottokar's.
Is there a specific place where I could trace the year? Still have a few Tintins.
The copyright is Casterman 1947. However, there is no printing year.
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March 31, 2023 20:45
fkimman

Wouldn't it be handy to photograph the back of your copy? Or is it exactly the same as #24301 ??
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March 31, 2023 21:16
fkimman
Years can only be traced back. So take a good look at the items in the catalog
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March 31, 2023 21:42
Years in old Tintins don't say much. It is the back cover that usually determines the year of issue. This requires some knowledge and the necessary reference books.
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Yes thanks. I've already looked at the rear.
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March 31, 2023 23:04
stripspeldjes funny you mention August 19, 1953. That is the date written in it by my father or grandfather when my father got this Tintin from an uncle. Left page, top left.

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March 31, 2023 23:31
fkimman Why do you think I mentioned that date ;-P

So you do indeed have the 1952 edition #847587 .
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April 01, 2023 08:51
fkimman

My curiosity, how is it that such an album is in such a bad shape? Seems to come from a damp storage room and/or used in a children's classroom where the pot of ink has fallen. Ttv my purse searching in the gray history I came across very meager copies, which then sold at the same very meager prices, because there were collectors of all kinds of editions. But I've never come across one like this. It's charming how a comic book could eventually look like after a lot of reading and storing it incorrectly...
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stripspeldjes haha ow of course the first picture was already there. Say good morning.

Harry56good question.
My father comes from a family of 10, but the books have been in a dry cupboard for the last 25 years. Fear that they were read/lived a lot in the early years.
Perhaps this one is in the worst condition because of the ink.
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fkimman

As collectors of comics or children's books in new condition / very beautiful, we sometimes forget that children's books used to be used to read and read again, lend and often also give to schools where all sorts of things happened with the books. My wife was a primary school teacher, sometimes came to neighborhoods there, then often saw piles of Suskes and Wiskes, etc., which, although "gnawed off", still served diligent young young readers ..
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Harry56 I could be wrong but I think comics and (youth) books are still for reading, I believe it's even the primary purpose of the artist/writer. ;)...
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Yes, but you can write a book about the history of collecting books and/or comic books. I'm really no different than any other comic book lover, bought a lot of popular series where a part came out, caught me as the series progressed, that I didn't always read it, at most got to leafing through. And speaking of primary, she bought to at least keep the series complete. And one of the developments is also investing, also in comic books. You can't deny that the purchase of a worn-out 1st edition Rikkie en Wiske for a few thousand euros is not intended to read it ... Or a French-language 1st edition of Tintin in Russia. But luckily many comic series are still read ...
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Harry56 What you say there is also correct, only I meant it more from the point of view of the "artist".. It doesn't seem to me that Herge drew his Tintin thinking that 60 years later (just to name a number) someone is going to pay tens of thousands of euros for it
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No, Herge (and Vandersteen, etc.) will certainly not have had that thought. I still follow the auctions from time to time and see a simple, relatively recent 1st four-color print (so a reprint) of Suske en Wiske because it is brand new (which can still be quite scarce) soaring in price. On the one hand the feeling that I only had such an album before, on the other hand "bizarre". You already have various types of buyers: readers, collectors and investors and/or a combination.
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