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@ charles1971: I have a shop with only items of very low financial value. In total, my shop value is already above € 500 and I don't even have my double keychains in it yet. My turnover has not exceeded a few Euros per year in recent years. I'm willing to pay €50 per year for my membership of Lastdodo, but if the theoretically calculated value of my shop determines the rate, I will empty my shop on Dec 31st. If there is still an adjustment, it can open again.
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a personal offer
It is probably so much work because the highly valued activity of the collector shop owner is taken into account to determine the price. The longer it takes, the more that is taken into account, the lower the final price? :)

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Rene wrote "Yes, there are still more people registering than people unsubscribing .

And Pietertje1961 responded with "This is not quite the reality/truth."

But Rene did write the truth: after all, he wasn't talking about the shops, but about the collectors. The number of collectors continues to rise. Only the number of shops drops, and not even very dramatically. 9 shops less at 17170 has changed almost nothing.
I am not surprised that there are fewer shops. Many shops are total madness in terms of time invested, and now that that feature is no longer free for some, there are of course many who stop using it. That shouldn't be surprising. As I wrote before: it's a reality check.
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Of course it's not December 31st yet. Only then can you see how many shops are disappearing, or their shop is drastically reduced. In any case, I doubt whether I will keep my shop open. That will depend on what I have to pay annually. Would be very sad if I had to close this one.
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Just saw that the 0.01 cent for confirmation of the subscription has been refunded.
Is that because of the change from 7.95 to 3.95 or is something going wrong?

Ain't no mistake. You consciously get that cent back. We don't want to get rich :-)
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only items of very low financial value
With the VIP package you can still have about 10,000 items in your shop with the current price model if the prices fluctuate around 0.25 euros.

Personally, I still hope that the limit of 3,000 euros will be increased a bit. Because I don't want to see many shops disappear (or slim down). As a buyer-collector, I really like the shops with a non-professional offer. and they usually have items with a total offer value of about 4,000 to 5,000 euros.

Only the 'cheap' items alone make such a cozy shop less interesting as a buyer. Only a limited range of more expensive items only.
The combination of is just interesting. Some nice pieces, supplemented with some cheaper stuff. To make it worth the shipping cost.
A (stamp or cigar band) collector at heart likes to have beautiful items, but also wants to fill as many 'holes' as possible. With one shipment (order).
Only then is there a reasonable chance of turnover in that segment of shops (VIP), so that the price of the subscription (50 euros per year) is not an obstacle.

It's a dilemma. Because as an LD user I also want LD to continue to exist. So money has to come in the cash register.
As René had explained for 2 (important) reasons.
Partly cover the costs, and create a budget to go to war.
Warpath: promotion of LD. Bringing LD to the attention. Regularly updating and adjusting LD. To keep moving.
To stand still is to go backwards. You only get exercise if you invest enough.
That movement can still go in two directions. Only the future will tell.

It's really a dilemma. A difficult choice. At the expense of policymakers. I am convinced that this disturbs the night's sleep somewhat. In any case, it would be. Not now, because I don't have to take that burden (of making policy decisions) here. Lucky me.

Losing a piece of ground today due to the direction being taken (policy decision), to gain double ground tomorrow. Building the future. Looking at the longer term. Vision. And hope for the desired effect.
Many fear the worst, but only by taking action (making decisions) do you have a chance. It's a hard world.
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November 26, 2022 11:43
it's a reality check

And that check is really necessary. Very regularly I signal to a seller that there is something in the shop of which the price may be a mistake.
It is (usually) much appreciated.
With the options that LD offers for filtering and sorting, you could easily find all those errors in your own shop.

How quickly do you end up in a paying subscription? With 10 items where the decimal point is wrong :)



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And ... thanks to the magical 75 euro limit, everyone can have at least 6 items in their shop with a free subscription. From 7 mistakes you pay, of course:

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By "reality check" I meant of course that many people have large shops without ever thinking about the cost/benefit ratio.
You are of course right that a wrong comma can cause quite a bit.

By the way, who see quite a few contradictory reactions here: there are people who complain that they should pay a small 50 euros / year subscription, and others would have no problem at all with just supporting with donations. There is no line to draw. For the time being, LD can best stick to the current plan, to evaluate it after six months or a year.
Constant change is also not interesting, because that creates confusion.
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Is it possible to export my collection with the purchase dates and prices entered by myself?
I have not yet opted for a subscription formula, but would like to be able to make a backup, via download csv or excel, of my own collection with the information I have entered over the 14 years.
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Bruichke ,
That is not yet possible, but is something that we will add in the future.
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Rene Not a mistake. You consciously get that cent back. We don't want to get rich off that.
Now that hasn't happened to me yet, 23-11-2022 payment made.
What is the reason for the refund?
Understand that there must be a confirmation for the subscription, but this seems
a bit cumbersome for me.
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Petvre The payment provider (Stripe) does this, but I don't know how fast they do it per chosen payment method.
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This may be a stupid question, but does LD promote in the real world?
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The value of my shop is more than 30,000 euros. However, I have not yet received an offer by email. Or maybe I missed something?
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René replied on the previous page:
We make a personal offer to everyone and have not yet been able to do that for all major shops, but everyone will really have it early next week.
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I happily stick with LastDodo and have just taken out a VIP subscription.
My shop is and will remain smaller, but that was the intention anyway.


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does LD also promote in the real world?

I think that is already happening to some extent, and you notice that when searching on google.
example:



One of the first search results is… lastdodo!

Clicking on the link will take you straight to the appropriate section on LD:



Never search long to find what's on LD, for anyone in the whole world.
I don't think you get something like that for free.

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I happily stick with LastDodo and have just taken out a VIP subscription.

Cool! I like cheerful.

With the adjusted price for VIP on LD you also share in the solidarity 'many little things make us big'. You can also view it that way.
And I think your shop can grow a bit within the limits of the VIP subscription?
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Because of the many shop daughters, it was easier to empty the shop first and then fill it up again quietly.
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Raoul62 I understand your reasoning as far as stamps and coins are concerned: after all, more expensive items than 1 Euro are common there. I currently offer coasters (usually worth 10 or 15 cents) and McDonalds Happy Meal goodies from our children. I have more than 1000 beer mats in it, which immediately amounts to a total asking price of € 100-€ 150. If the value per piece in the catalog were to be 25 cents, the value of those beer mats alone would already be € 250. I want to add key chains, but I am still adding them to my collection. I have a lot of things to add to the Keychains catalog itself first. In my shop, keychains will also usually cost 25 to 50 cents. The asking price elsewhere varies from 50 cents to 1 Euro and abroad it quickly rises to several Euros each. With my asking price I will not make much sales. I don't get many orders either: 1 or 2 per month was the frequency before I had to lock my shop for 2 years due to moving. That is why I prefer to see a fixed amount with a shop based on actual sales and not on the theoretical value.
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Okay lauwerier clear explanation. However, as already indicated, I do not think that this form will be adopted. The decision has already been made and I don't think it will be changed.
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If the value per piece in the catalog were to be 25 cents, the value of those beer coasters alone would be € 250.

Apparently it can't be explained often enough. The shop value is only calculated on the basis of the asking prices entered by you . The catalog values have absolutely nothing to do with the shop value. Even the stock is not included in the shop value, so even if you have 10 copies of the same item in stock, the sale price only counts once.
The seller therefore determines 100% his own shop value.
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I'm willing to pay €50 per year for my membership of Lastdodo, but if the theoretically calculated value of my shop determines the rate, I will empty my shop on Dec 31

lauwerier ,
It's like Collectioneur says. It only concerns the sum of your sales prices, whereby we do not include stock (number of an item is greater than 1).

You have a VIP subscription for less than the 50 euros you mention, so you can have 3,000 euros worth of shop value at your sales prices. You also wrote:
I currently offer coasters (usually worth 10 or 15 cents) and McDonalds Happy Meal goodies from our children. I have more than 1000 beer mats in it, which immediately amounts to a total asking price of € 100-€ 150.

So for that 3,000 euro shop value you can offer 30,000 things of 10 cents. Or 15,000 20 cent items. Quite a lot.
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first, big kudos to LD for listening to and incorporating objections to the new structure; I've experienced that quite differently elsewhere
I think the only real problem is that a shop with a value of 4000 euros pays the same as one with a value of 14000 euros
hopefully this can be adjusted in due course...
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I have/had a 5,500.00 euro shop, with 31,000 stamps.
Annual average yield 250.00 euros.
Choose the VIP subscription of 50.00 euros now.
am now deleting the most old and bad running items.
I will continue deleting until I am below the $3,000.00 resale value.
But ask for the future...
Is there 1 date for the valuation for next year?
Let alone replenish the shop in 2023 with new items up to a value of 4,000.00 euros.
Then I want to bring the value back below 3,000.00 euros before the end of the next reference date
by deleting less running or long running items.
Is this allowed?

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