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Unfortunately I will stop with this fun hobby.
I have a benefit that I have to make ends meet and 29.95 pm is really too much, still have thousands of pins that I wanted to put on the collection site. So far I have already put more than 2000 on it, which already cost me a lot of time {with pleasure}. So you can see that the richer shops benefit from it and we are simply kicked out. Really want to pay something for it but not as much as the subscription will cost.
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I have a shop with a value of about 20,000, sales in the last 13 months about 4,500, subscription is about 750 euros, so a small 20%. A lot higher than the 10% you mention in an earlier answer. And I guess I'm pretty representative. In fact, the only choices you have as a provider are to raise or cut your prices. Food for thought, but I also think for you. You now run the risk that the supply after 1 December will be dominated by collectors with a very small supply (free) and very large shops with a value > 30,000 euros. Perhaps some of the latter providers will switch to their own webshop, which is a lot cheaper.
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November 22, 2022 13:21
Rene I've only been a member for a year or two. Value shop is around 4400 euros. Just didn't add 1000 items to the catalog. Own photos are no longer free either. I feel a bit cheated. I actually only sold $30.
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Correction: 7.95 per month for shops under 3000 euros, free for under 300 euros. Misread.
And as deluistoel rightly suggests: a subscription based on turnover is a lot fairer. Much more administrative work, of course, but the decision as it stands now smacks of two things: laziness and greed.


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There are other sites that are free or cheaper with a wider range

Which are they then?
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Like everyone else, just saw the email and read the terms and conditions. You can find anything about it and I don't think constructive criticism is a problem, but I have been active on LD since March 2011, formerly CW, and since April 2012 active with the store. We had some nice years in terms of sales and contacts with fellow collectors. Sold many items and bought others to add to the collection. Happy years with the hobby through the site, which was very easy to use and always free. If you think about it, only the sun rises in life for free and you have to pay for everything else, otherwise others will pay for it. Whether you take out a subscription is a purely personal decision, which will have a different motivation for everyone, but I think the most important thing is that you can continue to manage the collection for free for an unlimited period of time. Maybe fewer functions, but a free option will continue to exist, where can you still find that. So don't have a problem with it, the site is yours and you alone determine the costs and the return model. Very logical actually, even though I'm closing my store for reasons other than just this subscription, it's still nice to be able to stay active with my free collection management. That's why René and Marco and everyone else thank you for all the nice years I spent with my online collection and hope that this may continue for a long time. Greetings from Albert (Skroets)
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November 22, 2022 13:28
And as the lazy chair rightly suggests: subscription based on turnover is a lot more realistic. Much more administrative work, of course, but the decision as it stands now smacks of two things: laziness and greed.

Don't be lazy, because we've tried that in the past (before 2013). What you saw then is that many sellers were always trying to evade the commission. That was a frustrating experience that we no longer wanted. Toniovanvugt
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Taking things out of my shop isn't going to increase my sales. The problem lies in the fact that there is a huge gap between EUR 3000 and EUR 15000. You get to 3000 pretty quickly. 6000/15000 would be more reasonable. After all, with a value of 3 to 4000 you cannot pay such an amount. I don't hear anything about performance either? Or is it just thanks for services rendered? I hope not...
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Sadly it ends for me… join previous posts from Toniovanvugt and Pretnet1958
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My retail value: 73,861 euros. September sales: 161.85 euros. Sale October: 64.45 euros. Catalog items entered: 1322. Catalog improvements: 8905 items. Thanks Marc for all your effort... and now we're going to make you pay big. Very sorry.
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René has now responded a few times with the comment:
Perhaps you can take a look at your offer / pricing.

I'm not on LastDodo to monetize it, I'm here to give fellow collectors a chance to add to their collections with items I no longer collect, no matter how niche, obscure or cheap . My girlfriend sometimes looks at it with a shake of her head, that I am again doing my best to provide someone with the best service possible by sending such an item that does not earn me anything, but I do that for 'the greater good'. From an economic point of view, it would be better to recycle it.

If my shop closes later, my offer will no longer be available. That leaves a few big players who can undoubtedly raise their prices as semi-monopolists. You can then bury the creed "for and by collectors".

I'm curious how many people who don't take out a subscription subsequently show themselves less and less in the forum and catalog. (And as a potential buyer!)
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When do you actually qualify for a free subscription?
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If I take out an annual subscription of 7.95 per month, what happens if I exceed the 3000 retail value?
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sucazel Exactly!
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Also that sellers then try to avoid commission.
If I lower my shop value, what's stopping me from offering more via email?
Then exactly the same thing happens.
Except that the supply will decrease enormously through lastdodo.

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When do you actually qualify for a free subscription?

Administrators can recommend users who are very active and contribute a lot to the catalog (many entries) to the catalog manager for a free VIP subscription.
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I only collect, don't need a shop.

The collection is set to private (what is anyone else's business) and mainly use the export function in addition to the database with albums.

8 euros per month for using the database, keeping the collection private and being able to export the collection is really tough.

I miss a 'Collector Only' subscription here of 4.50 per month / 49 euros per year.







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If I take out an annual subscription of 7.95 per month, what happens if I exceed the 3000 retail value?

If you go above that limit you will get a notification about it, so you can't accidentally go over it 015steef500
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Rene have now paid 1 cent rest will be debited Dec 1st???
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I have now paid 1 cent, the rest will be debited on Dec 1??

Yes, this is just for verification. The debit will only take place in December, because then the subscription will also start.

Thank you for subscribing to your shop puurveensboekenshop
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Dear René: You do realize that on every sales site there are people who try to avoid the commission? If you find out and can prove it (and you almost have to, because otherwise you can't make such a claim here), then it seems logical that you sanction or ban such a shop. Or you take it for granted, because they are exceptions: in the end it is much easier and more reliable to arrange a sale via the site than privately.
I fear that you will now miss out on even more income due to this exodus than if you worked with percentages.
I count it for you:
10% of my turnover of €662.90 is €66.29.
0% of the subscription that I don't take is €0.00.

And no further response to the comment already made here by me and others: if you want us to make our shop more interesting, you have to lift that upper limit of € 75.00 per item.




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but have been active on LD formerly CW since March 2011 and active with the store since April 2012. We had some nice years in terms of sales and contacts with fellow collectors. Sold many items and bought others to add to the collection. Happy years with the hobby through the site, which was very easy to use and always free. If you think about it, only the sun rises for free in life and you have to pay for everything else, otherwise others will pay for it. Whether you take a subscription is a purely personal decision, that will have a different motivation for everyone, but I think the most important thing is that you can continue to manage the collection for free for an unlimited period of time.

Thank you for your kind words! Skroets
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Toniovanvugt ,

Have you ever been to a trade show? That's the same principle. You pay in advance (and often more than 29.95 or 49.95) and then you have to be confident that you will sell enough. That mainly depends on whether the items you bring with you match the demand and whether you use somewhat competitive prices.

That is actually the same principle that we now apply. And you can assume that by having income we can also make more promotion for this platform (the stock exchange) and that there is therefore a good chance that you will sell more than now.

If you are at a trade fair, you could also ask the organizer if you can pay a commission per item sold, but not every organizer will agree. We don't either, following our previous experience with asking commission per item sold. But I do understand your question, it makes sense.
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You are not on a stock exchange, but on an online platform where every purchase is registered.
Comparison makes no sense at all
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