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January 14, 2022 17:53
I already asked in another thread, but maybe it was too hidden there.

Who knows where this seal #8078265 ( and photo below) belongs?

In any case, it is not an issue of Ukraine itself. With two collectors and a seller linked to the object, it doesn't seem like home industry either.

The print itself looks like the Turkish star with the "red" crescent in it (but cut out).



This same symbol appears on Turkish stamps for compulsory child support allowance:




Therefore I suspect that the top stamp of the end 1920 or 1921 is for charitable purposes. There was then a large refugee camp for Ukrainians (and southern Russians) in Turkey.

A search with the picture mainly yields hits for LD and unfortunately does not add any information.
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Helv ; according to this website, this is not really a postage stamp (although they appear to have been used for it from time to time). They would be 'paper coins' from Ukraine...there should be an imprint on the back that these stamps could be used together with metal coins.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Banknotes_of_the_Ukrainian_hryvnia (read the section under "Shahivky fractional currency").

What about the crescent stamp.... no idea.

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January 14, 2022 20:16
thisismyalias Thanks for your comment!

I researched the story of the paper coins yesterday. On April 8, 1918, a series of allegorical symbols on cardboard was issued as emergency money. These are perforated and indeed printed on the back (see #8232955 for front and back for a different value in this series). This emergency money could and could be used as a stamp and may therefore (in my opinion) be in the stamp catalogue.

On July 19, 1918, the same images were used on "real" stamps. These are printed on thin paper and usually toothless. See #1402813 for the stamp from above, but without the overprint. To make things even more complicated, a small part of these stamps is also issued perforated with the same perforation as the emergency money (see eg #8034099).

The stamp with overprint of star and moon is not in the catalogs of Ukraine that I can consult. Initially thought of home crafts, but the symbol is very typical for Turkish child care and therefore perhaps not just a stamp.
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