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What they have consciously done is to place the latest 10 combi offers at the top of every shop. It doesn't matter that an offer is 1 year old. So no bug.

Indeed, it is not a bug but a feature :-)

Whether it is a good feature can of course always be discussed.

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Yes, but if you go to page 2, and then back to page 1, the feature has suddenly disappeared, because then they are in date order.
And if you go to the page of your shop then there is the sort order at the top right, it's by date, but that's not correct, because it's not sorted by date, but by combination offer first.
Confusion trumps if you ask me.
Why 10 combination offers must first be shown, I think that's a strange feature, but if it is, then it should of course not state that the sort order is by date, but then it should be set to 'default', or ' default', and that you have to change it to date yourself.
And it doesn't make sense if you first go to another page, and then back, that it is sorted differently.
Then you can Calling this a feature indeed, it just makes no sense.
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In any case, it is confusing that in the top right of the sort it says: Date added. But even if you choose a different sorting, nothing seems to change, because those ten offers fill your entire screen.

By the way (apart from the first ten offers) something goes wrong with that sorting, because it works me not to get the lowest price at the top, or the oldest offer, or the alphabetically first title..... (The alphabetically last one is.)
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Followed by a comment about that drop-down menu. Those arrows up and down are very confusing to me. If I want the lowest price at the top, is that down arrow or up arrow? Try it every time.

What I find much clearer is the way Delpher states it, with 0-9 and A-Z:



P.S. Does anyone know what the "Relevance" sorting (in the Shop) does exactly?
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About sorting and filtering options; when you want to see in a shop which albums from the same series the seller still offers, you could previously easily click on the link behind "hero" or "series" and you immediately got an overview. and you have to filter yourself.
It all looks new and flashy, but you have to click through and filter a lot more than in the old version. 
This also applies to the structure of the list of albums offered if your desired title and Previously you could scroll, now you first have to open that window, then you search, but you have to click open the same window every time you return.Even when using the back button of your browser, the screen does not necessarily go back to your last page/screen..

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But even if you choose a different sorting, nothing seems to change, because those ten offers fill your entire screen.

Strange, I don't have that. If I choose a different sorting, then there is no longer deliberately sorted first on the 10 newest combi offers. In which shop do you have that  Boekenmagazijn ?

And would you rather not have the 10 most recent offers at the top after opening a shop?


What I find much clearer is the way Delpher states it, with 0-9 and A-Z:

Interesting suggestion! Thanks!


P.S. Does anyone know what the sorting "Relevance" (in the Shop) does exactly?

You mean on Delpher? It seems to me what most closely matches your search term first.
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About sorting and filtering possibilities; when you want to see in a shop which albums from the same series the seller still offers, you could previously easily click on the link behind "hero" or "series" and you immediately got an overview. and you have to filter yourself.
It all looks new and flashy, but you have to click through and filter a lot more than in the old version. 
This also applies to the structure of the list of albums offered if your desired title and Previously you could scroll, now you first have to open that window, then you search, but you have to click open the same window every time you return.Even when using the back button of your browser, the screen does not necessarily go back to your last page/screen..

Do you perhaps have a little more info about what you did before and now do Coopertje ? I don't get it right away because.

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By the way (apart from those ten first offers) something goes wrong with that sorting, because I can't get the lowest price at the top, or the oldest offer, or the alphabetically first title.... (The alphabetically last one though.)

I can indeed see that things are going wrong here. Let's take a look. Thanks for reporting Peter!
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I mean the Relevance sort option here on LD (top of the list).
I can imagine something with a search, but not as a general arrangement in a Shop.

I think that the combi offers should not be included in the first ten, only the regular offers. A seller can select (check) this himself and thus manage it as desired.
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Suppose you are looking for an album, then you come to the page e.g. 18422
You click on the top seller in this case Jekat
If you then want to see which albums this seller offers from the same series, I scrolled down a bit and clicked on 'hero' or 'series' on the same page and then got an overview of which albums this seller offers from this series.$$ $0$$$
Now you just go to the overview page of this seller and you have to start filtering yourself..
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Boekenmagazijn ,  then I think you searched for something in the Search in selection field?

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Now you just go to the overview page of this seller and you have to start filtering yourself..

Aha, thanks for the clear explanation Coopertje  Let's see if that can be repaired.
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Coopertje is right, before clicking on such a link (also Draftsman, Publisher, etc.) you would see all the results from the relevant Shop.
I had to get used to that in the beginning , because it seems like such a link points to the catalog.

Now I understand that the item pages of the Shops still need to be revised, so maybe it will work in the new version.
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And would you rather not have the 10 most recent offers at the top after opening a shop?

This question also to others: is it desirable or not to open the shop with the most recent offers? That's how it worked before (when we showed the items marked as offers, only we didn't show combi offers). We could also always show the newest items first without doing anything special with (combination) offers in the order.
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I think you searched for something in the Search in selection field?
I think you're right. Sorry, my bad.


Unrelated issue: If you click on someone's avatar (the circular photo) here you will get a page saying "This account has been deleted".

( It's funny that you can see a user number here. Who were the first 14 for you, René?)

Edit: only if you're in a discussion, apparently, not in the overview with Recent posts.
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Unrelated issue: if you click on someone's avatar (the round photo) here you will get a page saying "This account has been deleted".

Something is wrong there indeed. Let's solve.

(It's funny that you can see a user number here. Who were the first 14 for you, René?)

Tests by Marco :-)
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I also don't understand why they should be at the top because of Combi offers.. 
Possibility to request these separately seems more appropriate to me
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Due to Combi offers I also don't understand why they should be at the top..
Possibility to request these separately seems more appropriate to me

The assumption was that sellers would like to display their most recent (combination) offers more prominently. If most sellers don't think that's important, we can also leave it out and just always show the most recent additions first, even if they aren't offers.

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By default, the most recent offers at the top seem the most logical to me. You can filter if you wish.
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June 12, 2021 16:26
Coopertje 
Before we get confused. By the most recent offers, you actually mean the offers marked by the seller as an offer?
You can also mean the most recent advertisement with one item (not an offer) from a shop.
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Oops, I'm not with you now.. 
Arranged by date, offers are allowed at the top, I would not recommend combi offers at the top.
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As far as I'm concerned, just the most recently created advertisements first, whether it concerns 1 item or a combi offer, it doesn't matter. If it says "sorted by date" at the top, then it just has to be sorted by date too, otherwise it doesn't make sense.
Anyone who wants to can choose a different sort order.
If not, then you have to sort order eg "according to offer" or something, if it is not by date, and if the offers are shown first.
It would also be useful if you could choose that yourself for your own shop, because for me personally I think that's not helpful, but I understand that might be quite difficult.
I never mark items as offers, I only have regular items and combi offers.
If I understand correctly, you mean by offers something other than combi offers.
Those are  items put in 'promotion' by the store I presume? That is a feature that I don't use anyway, so it doesn't matter to me whether they are at the top, so I can safely leave it that way.
But no combi offers at the top anyway, I think that's completely unnecessary and confusing, just the most recent first, if nothing is 'in promotion'.
I'll leave that last one open, because I don't use that option.
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I had never noticed that offer box before, please only place marked items first. So remove current sort
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 I had never noticed that offer box before, please only place marked items first. So remove current sort 

Do you mean the box when creating an offer or at the top of a shop with list view?
Which sorting do you want to see in the first list view of a shop?

To clarify for everyone: We so have 2 types of offers.
  • One is the combination listing, which contains multiple items.
  • The other is that of an item that is specially offered by a seller. It is the intention that a pre-price can be indicated there soon. For example: from € 19.95 for € 17.50
    For the time being, we use the check mark that was also used in the previous marketplace to put an item in the spotlight a little more.
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A long time ago, when we were all still young and our enthusiasm was limitless, there was the possibility to create a so-called "widget" with items from your collection or shop.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to just put a box like this at the top of the list of shop items instead of those ten offers, in which sellers can place "featured" items as they see fit?! Possibly scrolling if there are more than fit. All offers will of course also remain visible in the chronological list below

I have photoshopped an example together, for which I again (completely disinterestedly) used my own shop as an example ;-)

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