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I brought a few bottles of Birra Lara from Sadinie but I can't get the labels soaked off the bottle. After 24 hours in the warm water they still did not let go. Tips are welcome. Gerrit

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  • July 20, 2016 08:35
July 20, 2016 08:35

A splash of ammonia often works or else white spirit

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July 27, 2016 14:27

Won't these substances affect the labels? Do other beer label collectors have experience with this?

I myself often have problems with deviating from USA labels of certain brewers.

Thank you for your responses.

Ewald.

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  • July 27, 2016 15:19
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With American labels I usually use benzene, British and French are also very difficult, on the Bieretiketten.nl site there are useful tips and an incredible number of labels from Dutch brewers and ex-brewers.

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December 29, 2020 17:23

Deviating from labels with thin paper or a delicate layer of paint (often metallic) is very difficult. You will soon notice that the label is fraying and tearing. Then stop immediately and have a little patience.

I myself have had good experiences for a while with the following method:

Soak the labeled bottle for as long as you would with a normal peel-off label. I put several bottles in warm water myself so that I can see when it has soaked long enough. I use warm water because hot water can discolor the labels. Hotter is not necessarily better ...

When it's time I take the bottle out of the water and let it dry for more than 20 minutes. In this way the outer layer becomes firm and dry again, but the bottom layer remains somewhat softer.

Now you can carefully make a start along the side of the label with a (breaker) knife and then very slowly and carefully strip the bottom layer. This is almost always good if you take it easy enough. Then let the label dry completely under something heavier so that it is firm and smooth again.

Good luck.

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A bit of the same problem as with certain self-adhesive stamps. You can't deviate from that either. Benzene is then the miracle cure. It won't hurt to use (a little bit) of benzene on stamps (several times, I don't know). Evaporates quickly and leaves no odor. However, the adhesive side will remain tacky. With those self-adhesive stamps you solve this by rubbing that side well with talcum powder. Otherwise you run the risk that they will stick to your album, and then they will be lost.
Be careful with the printed (colour) side. Cigar bands, for example, cannot withstand moist conditions (colors flake off), you should never put them in water. Stamps can handle that well. With beer labels, I suspect that the printed material is stable enough. If necessary, first try on a 'spare' copy.

Sometimes, when you take a full pint (in the bottle) from the fridge and eat it on the terrace, you see that up to the height of the beer in the bottle there is condensation on the outside. And that's where the label usually comes off.
Maybe try a bottle with a stubborn label sticking to it: fill the bottle with water, place it in the cupboard, and then place it in a warmer environment.
The adhesive layer will still are largely present and treat them with talcum powder. Flour (flour) also works, but I fear that a food may cause other effects in the longer term :)

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This label #8848741 eg was very tricky. Comes from America of course.

The adhesive layer does not come off.
24 hours in slightly lukewarm water with washing-up liquid in it, and then start picking. That's how it worked. But only because the label turned out not to be paper but a kind of plastic film. This would not have been possible if the paper had been used.
And the starting corner continues to bear visible marks, the glue that was used was so persistent.

Gasoline would have been of no benefit here. Does not penetrate plastic...
Next time I will try by filling the bottle with boiling water. Maybe that makes the glue more flexible?

I wonder how they recover such bottles in a bottling plant. After all, the old label, including the glue residue, has to be removed first, right? I can't imagine that they do that with benzene...
Nobody at LD who works or was in a bottling plant?
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