Music/information requested about the series I Grandi Musicisti24 messages

On the labels of the LPs of the I Grandi Musicisti series (example: no. 4773099 ) is listed" non in vendeta "(not for sale). I wonder why.

Who can tell me how these LPs were delivered? Did you get them as a gift somewhere? Or maybe you had to subscribe? Or were they simply sold in the Netherlands?

Who knows ...?

When I look here , and try to understand what the translator makes of it :), I think they were attachments to a lecturama-like series. And therefore not sold 'separately'.

@pegag:

Thank you. It seems that the plates with the text are in one sleeve. So no separate attachment.

DisneyMeentwijk wrote for 1 of the records:

"The record is in a square thin paper inner sleeve in the right side of the record sleeve. Opening on the inside.
Also includes a 12-page booklet on the music and the composer "

I have almost the entire series and will be adding them to CataWiki soon (I finally got my record collection out of all the bags, unfortunately I am still short of shelves).

You have to compare this series with the present DeAgostini. It also publishes all kinds of magazines with something extra. And in the case of Records and CDs, this is the series The Classical Music collection and with records you also have a Dutch version, but I can't think of that. That series is therefore no longer published. The German version (actually an exact copy, I sometimes confuse the 2) was published by Bastei and the series was called Die Grossen Musiker .

As with all extras happens, everything is sometimes separated and thus also with the plates. You will sometimes come across the records separately, but they were not officially sold separately. And if you find the plate loose, it is nice if you have the original paper sleeve with it, because it is printed with advertising about the series.

Thank you Jouke, I now understand a little better.

You're welcome, this shows the great usefulness of the forum! You can always go here for questions and there is often a collector who has an answer.

1 Great wealth of information, the CataWiki Catalog and its users are indispensable for clarification.

I also have a nice number of albums from the Italian I Grandi Musicisti, as well as from Die Grossen Musiker collection.

I also have the table of contents of the Italian edition, a book of the same format as the albums : I Grandi Musicisti Indici.

Where can I best enter them in the catalog?

Als ik mijn collectie goed kan herinneren, dan is dat een soort pamflet van een aantal pagina's met de afbeeldingen van de platen er op, of heb ik het mis ?

Die moet je bij boeken invoeren met de link naar de platenreeks I Grande Musicisti.

De platen inderdaad bij deze reeks toevoegen. Ik ben er helaas nog niet aan toegekomen. Het zijn er tenminste 45, want ik heb een hoog nummer daarvan. Allemaal erg leuk. Vergeet niet om alle 3 de afbeeldingen te gebruiken (voorkant en achterkant platenhoes en dan het label van Kant 1.

Zoals gezegd moet je ook goed oppassen dat je ze niet verward met de Duitse versie. De afmetingen zijn namelijk bijna of misschien helemaal hetzelfde, de taal is alleen anders.

Succes alvast.

If I remember my collection correctly, it is a kind of pamphlet of several pages with the images of the plates on it, or am I wrong?

You must enter this in books with the link to the record series I Grande Musicisti .

Add the plates to this series indeed. Unfortunately I haven't gotten to it yet. It's at least 45, because I have a high number of those. All very nice. Don't forget to use all 3 images (front and back record cover and then label from Side 1.

As mentioned, you also have to be careful not to confuse them with the German version. The dimensions are almost or maybe completely the same, only the language is different.

Good luck in advance.

There are at least more than 45, possibly even 194 . The table of contents has no. 195 .

Don't be careful with mixing the German and Italian series, or you should be blind. The differences are obvious.

I have already imported the necessary Italian records, but not everything yet.

And I still have to do the German ones from Bastei.

But whether I will spend the holidays on that ......

Thanks for the input tip for the table of contents.

If I understand the German text correctly, Bastei has released only 50 albums under license:

1967 bis 1969 rewegte der Bastei-Verlag eine Schallplattenreihe mit dem Title DIE GROSSEN MUSIKER : Alle 14 Tage erschien ein (Doppel-) Album mit Klappcover und ausführlichen Hintergrundinformationen (Biografien der Komponisten as well as Material zu der Zeit und the Umständen, in der die Musik entstand) on 12 Seiten. Jede EP cost 5 DM, die Doppelalben jeweils 8 DM, which Scheiben wurden with 33 1/3 Umdrehungen absspielt und werezusätzlich in einer Extrahülle eingetütet.

DIE GROSSEN MUSIKER was that deutsche Lizenzausgabe der italienischen Reihe I Grandi Musicisti , which started 1966. Bastei stellte die Reihe nach 50 Ausgaben ein.

Einstellen seems to mean as much as stopping or stopping in this context.

hebben jullie die serie anders wil ik wel een poging doen om die zoveel mogelijk of zover mogelijk in te voeren

wat ik me herinner weet ik er nog wel een bananendoos vol te staan zeg niet dat ik ze dan compleet heb maar kan een poging wagen.

Kan maandagmiddag een poging wagen, als jullie dan de tracks etc kunnen controleren / aanvullen 

zal kijken wat ik kan doen.

ben ergens in de 60 jaren blijven hangen wat muziek betreft klassiek is modern gezegd niet mijn ding

ooit heb ik met behulp van een andere verzamelaar deze serie ook redelijk in beeld gekregen 

Do you have that series, otherwise I would like to make an attempt to enter it as much as possible or as far as possible

what I remember I still have a banana box full don't say I have them complete but can give it a try.

Can make an attempt on Monday afternoon, if you can check / supplement the tracks etc

will see what i can do.

I got stuck somewhere in the 60s when it comes to music classical is not my thing in modern terms

I once got a reasonable picture of this series with the help of another collector

Hallo Dick52

Ik heb slechts een beperkt aantal albums uit beide series.

Geef maar een seintje als je wat ingevoerd hebt, dan kijk ik wat ik kan aanvullen.

Groet,

Cor (Wow)

Hello Dick52

I only have a limited number of albums from both series.

Just let me know if you've entered something and I'll see what I can add.

Greeting,

Cor (Wow)

Today at my LP albums found a complete overview from 1969 of the albums released by Bastei; It concerns 53 LPs published in 50 albums.

If you are interested, I can send you a scan of the overview via private mail.

I am now in France and cannot access my records. I think I have a lot of the German series, but I don't have them all (I have a lot, because I can't remember the numbers and they all look nice and then I buy them when I see them). Biggest difference so out of my head is that the German version has a white cover and the Italian one has a gold one. But that is without looking in the Catalog.

The Netherlands has the De Klassieken series in 2 different versions, but was this series also not published in the Netherlands? I am very curious, because I really like them.

Biggest difference from my head is that the German version has a white cover and the Italian one a gold one.

It's actually more or less the other way around:

The Italian series has the white, uniformly designed covers.

The German series by Bastei has differently designed covers, not gold-colored, but often provided with color images, or completely in color (ie only the covers of the covers).

I'm amazed that with the current record hype DeAgostini has not started reissuing or reissuing the series or something similar?

Or did they think it was enough after the releases of the Classic Masterpieces series in all those CDs? Or don't they dare to revive classic records?

ik heb er een stuk of 30 ingevoerd, moet labels nog doen.

tot heden ben ik nog geen Duitse persing tegengekomen.

Wat me wel opviel de binnenhoes omvat info over de overige uitgave van een componist, zal dat ook nog toevoegen labels moet ik nog doen. en tracks etc.

wat ik wel zag dat deze serie ergens in de knakenbak bij V& D

Ook zag ik er een met een prijs van 2.50 DM

daarnaast de lp werden aangeboden voor 5 DM

en dubbel voor 8 DM.

En ik moet zeggen mooi uitgevoerd,

Zelf denk ik dat deze serie een Italiaanse persing is voor de W Duitse markt.

Gezien de prijs was het spotgoedkoop in de 60 jaren betaalde je in die periode ruim 20,00 gulden per lp.

Het lijkt me dat fl 10.00 per lp voor die tijd goedkoop was.

Denk dat dit meteen een antwoord is op de vraag van DM.

zodra ik weer wat heb aangepast laat ik het weten

I entered about 30 of them, still have to do labels.

so far I have not come across a German pressing.

What I did notice is the inner sleeve contains information about the other releases of a composer, will also add labels I still have to do. and tracks etc.

what I did see is that this series is somewhere in the junkyard at V& D

I also saw one with a price of DM 2.50

in addition the lp were offered for 5 DM

and double for 8 DM.

And I must say nicely executed,

I personally think that this series is an Italian pressing for the W German market.

Considering the price it was dirt cheap in the 60 years, you paid more than 20.00 guilders per LP in that period.

It seems to me that fl 10.00 per lp was cheap for that time.

Think this is an immediate answer to DM's question.

I'll let you know as soon as I've made any changes

I think the Bastei albums are all pressed in Italy.

In the meantime I have supplemented Georg Friedrich Händel I with label and tracks.

Carl Maria von Weber II also updated label and tracks.

Joseph Haydn II

and

Georg Friedrich Händel III

also updated and corrected.

I have now been able to add a number of this series, and of the 50 that have probably been released, we now have a good 38 of the 50, there is a duplicate but it will be removed.

Will see if I can still find the missing 12 who knows?

But someone else can also add them.

The nice thing is that now it also stands out: that series have been made in this series, for which separate storage boxes were available.

Each composer (series) has its own label color.

I personally think that the Italian series was published first and that after that the W German is made? in the Italian series I also came across the lp version from 1981, a re-press

The Italian series of I Grandi Musicisti consisted of 194 albums, I could verify on the basis of the Table of Contents (Indici)

The German series of Die Grossen Musiker consisted of a sleection of 50 albums and was produced in Italy by Fabbri Editori for Bastei Verlag in West Germany.

Dick, you're talking about the Classics series. These are white record sleeves with the text Classics on them. At least, I have 2 boxes of those.

@ DM ja dat is ook een serie in witte hoezen maar dat is een andere serie (zover ik nu weet?).

We hebben het over deze reeks Itiliaanse die vermoedelijk de witte hoes hanteerde

en over deze de W Duitse die later ook gekleurde hoes hanteerde

@ DM yes that is also a series in white covers but that is a different series (as far as I know now?).

We are talking about this series of Itilian which supposedly wielded the white cover

and about this the W German who later also used colored cover