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February 13, 2021 11:30

@John:

I know you're on it and that's one of the reasons I'm bringing it up.

The rules stated in the Handbook are not entirely clear. I think you should interpret it as follows (if this is not correct, please let me know):

For Composers and Lyricists you have to enter the real name followed by a possible fantasy name / pseudonym, under which is composed or written ( not necessarily the artist name ).

Example:

Suppose Howlin 'Wolf composed a song under the name' Flipje '.

By Artist:

Burnett, Chester (Howlin 'Wolf).

At Composer:

Burnett, Chester (Flipje)

If, for example, Burnett, Chester (without Flipje) is mentioned in the dropdown list for Composer or Lyricist, then only use the real name and warn one of the administrators. An administrator can change this.

As for White Christmas, I think you did well.

(We should just leave Berlin, Irving as it is, despite the fact that it might actually be Beilin, Israel ;-)

And I think you should mention both the author of the original version and the writer of the lyrics in the other language.

By the way, you seem pretty familiar with the Great American Songbook. How is that so?

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February 13, 2021 12:22

@Rob

Irving Berlin is really a different theme, is not his real name and he also wrote under Pseudonym like Ren and G. May.

But I actually meant Silent Night original text by Mohr, translated by Young.

About Great American Songbook.

Has always been a hobby of mine, especially music, and a lot of internet research of course.

There are really a few good sites where you can find a lot.

B.V.

DAHR Discography Of American Historical Recordings

B.V.

Nederlandsch Fabricaat Overviews of the 78 Toeren Platen manufactured in the Netherlands

Greetings John

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February 13, 2021 13:35

@Lyonesse and @Vertigo

Just to be clear before things go wrong: Only admins can add an alias to a real artist / band name. So if someone wants to add a stage name to someone, it should be reported to an administrator who can arrange that.

Additions to names, to distinguish them from the same name, can. But then only between [square brackets].
Aliases are automatically with regular parentheses around the (name), so this must be done by an administrator.

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February 13, 2021 13:35

@John:

Where I wrote 'White Chrismas' (side A), I was also talking about Silent Night (side B).

So both Mohr and Young.

As for the Great American Songbook, it should actually be a compulsory subject. From the age of 18 I listened not only to pop and rock, but also to jazz and classical. I also had a lot of records from (jazz) crooners such as Sinatra and Nat King Cole. Through those crooners I got to know a lot of songs from the Songbook and with that I was able to recognize a lot of jazz songs. Will you enjoy it all your life.

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@Tammo:

Of course you are absolutely right.

In practice, however, things almost always go wrong. Users fill in all kinds of pseudonyms on their own and the administrators correct that (if they see it).

But again, you're right. And it is good that once again they are told how to do it.


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Vertigo When I see what's in Great American Songbook, Anton knew all about it. He has often tried to persuade me, but unfortunately he never succeeded.
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@Morits:

It will be a matter of taste, but the best songs, for example well-known songs by Cole Porter, are genius. And for example the albums that Sinatra made in the second half of the 50s (with some songs from the Songbook), they are not a bad song. And maybe you think you shouldn't like these songs if you like Zappa's music? Take it from me: you can!

By the way, I don't know which Anton you mean.

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Anton is a good friend of mine who has just passed away. Have a small i.m. put at RIP
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Strength, Morits.

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February 14, 2021 11:31

Just a small addition: it is also possible to add multiple aliases for one and the same person. For example, we have them with composers Eddy Ouwens with the aliases: A. Brikoos and Gary Shelter.

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February 15, 2021 17:55

@Administrators Plates

Can one of the administrators at Composer / Lyricist Robert A. King add some Pseudonyms.

Betty Chaplin / Mary Earl / Ed Haley

Have an example there, he calls himself Mary Earl LD No. 4401197

Greetings John.

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February 16, 2021 16:13
I made the following from Robert A. King: King, Robert Adolph with Betty Chaplin , Mary Earl and Ed Haley as aliases. I also adapted Bo Carter .
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Fine French
I have another one.
Concerns the Composer Ira Schuster, has as Pseudonym John Siras
Greeting John.
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@French
Fine, I saw you changed Ira Schuster.
Have some more.
Concerning the Composers and Lyricists Jack White, there are two, they got a bit mixed up.
The first is Horst Nußbaum, you can change it to Nußbaum, Horst (Jack White) who was mainly active in the 70s and 80s, was also a footballer for PSV Eindhoven in the 60s.
The Second is John Anthony Gilles pseudonym is Jack White and Jack White III
Was with the bands The Racouteurs, The Dead Weather, The White Spripes, guitarist with the Rolling Stones, and has also made records alone.
If you change those two Jack White's you can do that in the Composers and Lyricists.

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That's not something I can do just like that ... Each item that is listed with Jack White has to be checked one by one to determine which is Jack White. I don't know the German Nussbaum. The White Stripes, of course. I'll put it on my to-do list.
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@Meheerders records
Have a question about Lou Bandy, his actual name is Lodewijk Dieben
Changed a record # 5573119 there it is on the record as composer and lyricist Lou Bandy, should it remain that way, or will one put it with the composers and lyricists Dieben, Lodewijk (Lou Bandy) or just Dieben, Lodewijk. then change it.
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Based on my story about Howlin 'Wolf and Flipje, it must be possibility A. I've already changed it.

'Girl are you going fishing' is a bit like 'Are you going to take mopeds with you'
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@French or Rob
Concerns the Lyricist Jacques van Tol (Father van Tol Hansse)
His name is actually Jacobus van Tol, Jacques is a pseudonym.
Now he is already standing as Tol, Jacques van (Paulus de Ruiter), also a pseudonym.
Two more pseudonyms are added, namely Bert van Eijck and Jip Feldman.
He almost always wrote under a pseudonym because he was a bit wrong during the war. Was also three years before this.
Can you change this.
Regards John.

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I have merged them all under the name Tol, Jacques van because I consider Jacques as a call sign. James and Francis are his baptismal names.
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Fine French looks good.
Have another one LOL.
Drafi Deutscher uses the pseudonyms Renate Vaplus and Kurt Gebegern
Please change the composers and lyricists.
Regards John.
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@Frans or Rob
Was changing something again.
It is about Annunzio Mantovani.
He has the pseudonyms Tulio Trapani and Manilla.
At # 6213207 he stands as Manila
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@French or Rob
Concerns the composer Jean Villard
Has the pseudonyms Jean Villard Gilles and Gilles
Can you change this
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All jeans are merged.
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@French
Look good again at Jean Villard.
I don't know if you also joined Mantovani, finished the rest.
Now there is still some at Annunzio Mantovani, can you put him also with the lyricists, because I discovered something else, with Cara Mia from Jay & amp; the Americans.
Co-wrote the music and lyrics with Lee Lange.
Lee Lange is a pseudonym of Bunny Lewis, who has another pseudonym, Johnny May (This is also a few times at LastDodo)
Can you also change this to Lewis, Bunny (Lee Lange, Johnny May)
Please contact the composers and lyricists.
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I did indeed completely adapt Mantovani, but he did not exist with lyricists. I'm going to take a look at that and then I also take Bunny Lee with me ;-)
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